Anyone try Pure Over?

Coffee preparation techniques besides espresso like pourover.
Auctor
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#1: Post by Auctor »

I recently gave away my v60s and found myself shopping for a new one when I came across Pure Over.

https://pureover.com/

Has anyone tried this, and compared to either v60s, Kalita, or other drippers (Clever)? It's a bit pricey, so would love to hear from those who've experienced this before diving in.

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#2: Post by baldheadracing »

It looks like it uses cake filtration, like the Walkure Bayreuth and Karlsbad - you'll find lots of discussion on using the Walkure's, cup quality, etc., as they've been around for decades.

Essentially you'll get a bit of sediment in the first part of the pour - how much depends on your grinder and the coffee used - and then the coffee filters itself (cake filtration). For this style of coffee as pourover, I prefer to use nel drip as the flannel filters more sediment, yet allows for the same oils that are removed by paper filters, and has better temperature control for lighter roasts - the Pureover/Walkure brewing vessels will absorb a lot of heat and lower brewing temperatures. On the minus side, nel drip requires a pouring kettle and appropriate technique unless one uses a Melo-drip or similar, and caring for flannel filters is a bit of a chore.

Perhaps the easiest way to get this style of coffee is to go immersion with a French Press or cupping, but to me, the most fun way is a syphon :D.
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#3: Post by Auctor (original poster) »

Thanks Craig. Did some digging along the way and ran into this rather direct review:
I think many of these concerns could be worked out in a V2, if they make it that far.

Love the idea of the nel drip - have you found it to work for a 13-18 gram dose, or do I need something much larger to make it work? Blue Bottle said 45-50 grams, which is 3 cups for me!

https://bluebottlecoffee.com/us/eng/bre ... s/nel-drip

I tend to agree with you about cupping, and was just researching the Jogo straw again for exactly the reasons you described. Cheaper, and probably a better in-cup outcome, even if clean up is messy. I really miss Facsimile.

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#4: Post by yakster »

Auctor wrote:I tend to agree with you about cupping, and was just researching the Jogo straw again for exactly the reasons you described. Cheaper, and probably a better in-cup outcome, even if clean up is messy. I really miss Facsimile.
I picked up a Jogo straw, but never use it, probably because I'm not drinking coffee on the go. If I want a single cup I'll use a Kalita Wave or pull a shot on the Robot, but the straw did work and could be handy for someone on the go.
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ira
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#5: Post by ira »

I wondered if it would be like the Walkure, but examining the pictures it looks more like just a piece of glass full of holes, like a glass portafilter basket. Scanning through the video gives me the same impression.

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#6: Post by baldheadracing »

Auctor wrote:Love the idea of the nel drip - have you found it to work for a 13-18 gram dose, or do I need something much larger to make it work? Blue Bottle said 45-50 grams, which is 3 cups for me!

https://bluebottlecoffee.com/us/eng/bre ... s/nel-drip
James Hoffmann uses the same recipe for Nel drip (in a Hario Woodneck) and V60 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_I3ZVKKb4 Note that he goes on about storing the cloth filter - I do something different as I so rarely use cloth filters that I don't want to store them in the fridge/freezer. What I do is rinse/wash the filter, and then dry the filter out completely by putting the cloth filter in front of a hair dryer.

The Blue Bottle recipe is sort-of aiming at the traditional Japanese Kissaten pourover - note that they're using 45g-50g coffee with only 185g(!) of 175F water - and pouring extremely slowly (with an extremely expensive pouring kettle). This makes an interesting and very rich cup with a dark roasted coffee. I wouldn't use it with a light roast. BTW, here's James Freeman of Blue Bottle waxing lyrical about Daibo's Kissaten: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14iEB7ZIwtY This clip is from the great 2014 documentary, "A film about coffee," my favourite coffee film, available for rent at: http://www.vimeo.com/ondemand/afilmaboutcoffee
ira wrote:I wondered if it would be like the Walkure, but examining the pictures it looks more like just a piece of glass full of holes, like a glass portafilter basket. Scanning through the video gives me the same impression.
No doubt the Walkure is better - and I think that the Bayreuth is better looking - but the issues with brewing with the Walkure are going to be with the PureOver - and perhaps more.
-"Good quality brings happiness as you use it" - Nobuho Miya, Kamasada