thanks, sean. i'll go digging.

Abe Carmeli wrote:The review is done, and I am now compiling some images to accompany it. To that end, I pulled a few shots yesterday, which I'd like to share with you. (the photos were also published separately on my Versalab M3 grinder review)

Abe

Would the use of a non-Versalab M3 (Rocky, Mazzer etc) produce a shot of the same quality? I am wondering how much influence you think the Versalab is having on your shot quality on the Brewtus.

AlMac wrote:I am wondering how much influence you think the Versalab is having on your shot quality on the Brewtus.

This is an interesting question, especially since I do not recall seeing Abe post pictures of shots before aquiring the M3 grinder.

AlMac wrote: Abe

Would the use of a non-Versalab M3 (Rocky, Mazzer etc) produce a shot of the same quality? I am wondering how much influence you think the Versalab is having on your shot quality on the Brewtus.

The color & texture of the extraction, as seen in those pictures can be achieved with the Mazzer Mini on the Brewtus. Beyond the grinder's contribution, It is mostly determined by the Barista skill and beans used. The machine of course plays a role here too. If the temperature is not right, pressure wrong, and generally the machine is inconsistent in execution, it will negatively affect the visual and more importantly - the cup.

As to flavor, the M3's flavor profile is different from the Mazzer - and it is hard to generalize in which way it is different, because it changes with every blend you use. Generally speaking, it is more rounded, especially on acidic high growth coffees. But I also noticed more complexity in the cup. That attribute is independent of the machine used. I don't want to give away too much about the M3 in this thread as I plan a post specifically addressing flavor on the M3 Bench.

JonR10 wrote: This is an interesting question, especially since I do not recall seeing Abe post pictures of shots before aquiring the M3 grinder.

Come to think of it, you are right about the pictures. I've never posted any shots before. But I must say that if it were not for the necessity to take the photos for the Brewtus article, I wouldn't have posted these ones either. .

JonR10 wrote: This is an interesting question, especially since I do not recall seeing Abe post pictures of shots before aquiring the M3 grinder.

Also a challenge Jon, can you and the Wega produce a better looking shot - that would be an interesting comparison as well given the different types of machine at work. I assume you could given it is more about man than machine - but I've never seen a naked shot looking that good.

Abe's shot is one for the Look Out JonR thread.

AlMac wrote:...a challenge Jon, can you and the Wega produce a better looking shot - that would be an interesting comparison as well given the different types of machine at work.

If it's a challenge, then would have to say that I cannot produce a better looking shot than Abe's. It's more about the operator than the equipment, and in this case Mr. Carmeli has me beat.

Once my equipment is properly set up so that I can work standing straight and on a stable surface (with better lighting) then I probably will post many more shots on the CG "look out" thread.

But I would only hope to post something in the same league as Abe's because I can't even imagine anything looking better than that.

JonR10 wrote:If it's a challenge, then would have to say that I cannot produce a better looking shot than Abe's. It's more about the operator than the equipment, and in this case Mr. Carmeli has me beat.

But I would only hope to post something in the same league as Abe's because I can't even imagine anything looking better than that.

LOL, Jon ma man, thank you kindly. I don't think there is anyone out there with more authority than you on the naked extraction. You still own the porn house, I'm just an overnight guest.

OK Folks, it is finally done. The Buyer's Guide to the Expobar Brewtus is now available for your review. Many thanks to Dan, who managed to suck the life out of my original masterpiece with his sharp editing razor, but left it in much better shape than he found it . Go get it.

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It's been some time since this thread was warm. Any thoughts on the Brewtus II versus the original? One obvious difference is the addition of the gauge that Dan noted was omitted in the Brewtus I.