Which Chinese Roaster?

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#1: Post by CantinaCoffee »

I'm looking to upgrade from my Behmor, with a long term goal of supplying coffee for a relatives coffee shop. The plan is to start with a 600 gram roaster, and if all goes well with the business side, upgrade to a much larger roaster later, and keep the 600g machine for a sample roaster.

These are the three companies I'm looking at so far (all seem very similar):

Blue King:
https://lanjingmachine.en.alibaba.com/? ... 3e5fhjlYFk

Henan Chuangqin
https://cqmachine.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a ... 3e5fhjlYFk

Dongyi
https://cncoffeeroaster.en.alibaba.com/ ... 3e5fhjlYFk

I've sent pricing inquiries to each, and will report back in that regard.

Are there any other companies I should consider? My understanding is that Buckeye Coffee uses the Blue King models, which inspires some confidence relative to the other companies.

I'm pretty comfortable ordering from China, and have imported from several Chinese companies in the past (non coffee related). I'm also confident in my mechanical / electrical abilities, so I'm not too concerned with repairs / support.

Does anyone have experience ordering from these companies or others?

Thanks in advance!

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#2: Post by Randy G. »

Wintop. They make the Santoker which has been around for quite some time. I have one of the original 500g models. There is an old, 8-page thread here on HB. The black one at the bottom of page 1 in the thread is identical to mine from what I could see.
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#3: Post by CantinaCoffee (original poster) replying to Randy G. »

Thanks, it looks like Wintop has several product lines available. Interestingly, their website has a link to a video showing the Buckeye roaster. I'm wondering if Wintop is a reseller and not a manufacturer. I'll ask them....

http://wintopmachinery.com/wintop-600g- ... e-roaster/

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#4: Post by CantinaCoffee (original poster) »

Wintop is surely a reseller, not a manufacturer. Here's their three product lines. Their website is very useful for comparing these models.

WS = Santoker
WB = Bideli
WK - Blue King

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#5: Post by CantinaCoffee (original poster) »

I've been talking to Wintop, and the Santoker 500 is about $1,000 more than the BK-600 (same as buckeye BC-2).

I know there probably aren't a lot of people who have experience with both machines.... The main differences I'm noticing on the Santoker are a perforated drum which is also shaftless, so the beans don't collide with an internal shaft while rotating... I have no idea if that matters.

There seems to be a lot more info online about the BC-2 type of machine, so I'm leaning in that direction regardless of price. It also seems like parts may be more available long term since buckeye sells a lot of those machines.

Is there any reason to strongly consider the Santoker over the BK/BC?

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#6: Post by boublanc »

I bought the Dongyi a year ago 1KG natural gas. Its been good so far.
let me know if you have specific questions.
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#7: Post by CantinaCoffee (original poster) »

What was it that sold you on the Dongyi? I ended up putting down a deposit on a wk-600 (same as BC-2). I couldn't find as much info about the Dongyi roasters, and Santoker seemed to have a sketchy history as far as customer support.

I ordered from Wintop since their price was comparable to ordering directly from the Blue King factory, and they have a good history of support. It was a pretty painless process. If you're willing to use WeChat after about 9pm ET, you can get a conversation going and all of your questions answered quickly.

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#8: Post by boublanc »

For me it was essentially about the way the sales representative would answer my questions, He knew what a roaster is and was fairly knowledgeable.
Can't say the same with all of them. I thought if I have a hard time getting my questions answered it was not how I wanted things to be if I ever had any issues with the roaster.
The whole process was rather painless. importation, shipping and everything else. My first few roasts were where I felt alone so to speak. Lost without anyone to answer questions. Having a community of owners with the same machine would have been beneficial. But it would have come at a fairly steep expense. I was under the impression that, as the roaster I chose looked very similar to the like of Millcity, their guidelines would have applied to my machine...That was no the case.
What I know now is that I am learning so much more then following someone else profile and settings by actually roasting. Even if there was lots of bad roasts. Roasting is fun and beans are not that expensive.

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#9: Post by jpsm »

CantinaCoffee wrote:I'm looking to upgrade from my Behmor, with a long term goal of supplying coffee for a relatives coffee shop. The plan is to start with a 600 gram roaster, and if all goes well with the business side, upgrade to a much larger roaster later, and keep the 600g machine for a sample roaster.

These are the three companies I'm looking at so far (all seem very similar):

Blue King:
https://lanjingmachine.en.alibaba.com/? ... 3e5fhjlYFk

Henan Chuangqin
https://cqmachine.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a ... 3e5fhjlYFk

Dongyi
https://cncoffeeroaster.en.alibaba.com/ ... 3e5fhjlYFk

I've sent pricing inquiries to each, and will report back in that regard.

Are there any other companies I should consider? My understanding is that Buckeye Coffee uses the Blue King models, which inspires some confidence relative to the other companies.

I'm pretty comfortable ordering from China, and have imported from several Chinese companies in the past (non coffee related). I'm also confident in my mechanical / electrical abilities, so I'm not too concerned with repairs / support.

Does anyone have experience ordering from these companies or others?

Thanks in advance!
Check out bidelli. It is a great roaster. I am using a 3.5kg version and it is over powered in terms of burners. I am able to finish a roast as fast as 6min(just experimented). Get everything spec'd out and you will be happy for sure.