What is a high quality LOW MAINTENANCE espresso machine? - Page 3

Recommendations for espresso equipment buyers and upgraders.
pcrussell50

#21: Post by pcrussell50 » Jan 14, 2020, 4:34 pm

Slayer is also what I call a "first gen" profiler. It has two speeds, high and low. Versus the general trend towards fully variable, beginning to end flow control. There is at least one affordable machine out there, that requires minimal maintenance to run for years and years, that offers the same thing right out of the box. And can be reconfigured to fully variable beginning to end flow control. It also has all stainless boilers and portafilters (no plating), and saturated brew group temperature stability so no E61 issues to deal with. Just walk up and pull.

But if this capability is not of interest or import, it's probably just as well to get an E61. In fact in my case, with my whiz bang performance priorities already met, I'm considering an HX e61 just for the fun and novelty.

-Peter
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slybarman

#22: Post by slybarman » Jan 14, 2020, 4:57 pm

pcrussell50 wrote:so no E61 issues to deal with. Just walk up and pull.
I don't really think the E61 has issues when connected to a DB PID machine - or at least I haven't been seeing them. I think the "issues" are really HX issues versus E61 issues per se.

pcrussell50

#23: Post by pcrussell50 » replying to slybarman » Jan 14, 2020, 5:19 pm

So DBPID e61's are ritual-free, wall up and pull affairs like saturated brew groups? I could swear I recall that people would still flush them before a pull. If I'm wrong I stand corrected.

ETA: Ironically, my mate whose opinion differs from yours on the need for ritual on DBPID e61, also has a Bianca.

-Peter
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slybarman

#24: Post by slybarman » replying to pcrussell50 » Jan 14, 2020, 7:10 pm

What has he observed?

pcrussell50

#25: Post by pcrussell50 » replying to slybarman » Jan 14, 2020, 7:20 pm

Happy to. But a question... do you think we should take this to PM or are we staying on topic by going down this path? Not a test question. Asking your opinion. Or anyone else who is interested?

-Peter
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clumeng

#26: Post by clumeng » Jan 14, 2020, 10:19 pm

Back to the original question - I'm on Year 10 with my S1 Vivaldi VII. Plumbed in with filtered water with timer. Has been bulletproof. Only maintenance is backflush and replace gasket twice a year. Walk up, pull, and steam right away.

Maybe I got lucky but the Viv II fits the bill to me.
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pcrussell50

#27: Post by pcrussell50 » replying to clumeng » Jan 14, 2020, 10:45 pm

More or less the same here. Slightly different maintenance. On my machine, the group gasket lasts for-ev-er. Never needed one of those. But I did change a couple of other elastomeric seals (o-rings) about every three years. That said, I do inspect under the cover about once a year just to check for anything out of line. If a problem is going to occur, better to see it coming.

-Peter
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