Smallest Prosumer Espresso Machine

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habaden
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#1: Post by habaden »

Hey everyone, my job requires that I travel for up to 3 months at a time. For ease of moving I'd like to downsize the current machine I've been hauling with me which is the ECM Synchronika. This machine is perfect and If it was smaller/easier to carry I wouldn't change it. Ideally I'd like something that feels as quality as it but smaller. I'd like it to be able to fit in a padded pelican case in an ideal scenario. I have a budget of around $3000 and would love some recommendations.

We typically drink around 4 milk drinks a day so having a steam boiler is important. I've thought about the Decent machines but theres something about them that makes me think they look a bit cheap. But I do like how portable they are. I've never used a lever machine but i'm not opposed to one, the Olympia Cremina has caught my eye, also considering the Odyssey Argos if that ever makes production.

Is there any E61 machines that you all would suggest? I'd like a dual boiler but I think I might need to compromise on that to get a smaller footprint. I'm just very accustomed to my Linea Mini at home and this ECM.

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#2: Post by baldheadracing »

Not sure if they are still made, but how about a Rocket Portavia? I don't know of anyone who actually bought one, but it is an E-61 in a travel case.

A Lelit MaraX is also quite compact.

When I traveled with a machine, I used an Elektra Micro Casa a Leva or an SBDU similar to a Lelit Anna.
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Jeff
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#3: Post by Jeff »

An E61 is going to set minimums on the size and weight (around 9 lbs for the group heat alone). A Lelit Mara X would probably be my choice of what I know about. It will probably be lighter than dual-boiler E61s and is the only machine I'd trust not to need a flush routine (or a stupidly long rebound time due to a strangled thermosiphon).

Lelit MaraX
Dimensions LxDxH: 22x41x35 cm
Weight: 18.8 kg

The ECM Classika is larger and not much lighter, and you've got a single-boiler machine
Weight 18.5 kg
Measurements (without portafilter)
w x d x h 250 x 445 x 395 mm

Edit: Quick Mill Alexia Evo (single boiler)
https://www.chriscoffee.com/products/qu ... alexia-evo
Height 15.875 in (40.3 cm)
Width 9.5 in (24 cm)
Depth 17.5 in (44.5 cm)
Weight 38 lbs (17.2 kg)



A Lelit Elizabeth would be another I'd consider based on its close-coupled group and variable fill/soak parameters.
Dimensions LxDxH: 32x27x38 cm
Weight: 12 kg

I'm waiting for an Argos (paid preorder). If that fulfills reasonable expectations (it makes reasonable espresso and can make 2-4 shots in a row without jumping through thermal-management hoops), that seems like a good option as well.

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#4: Post by Randy G. »

Decent- even comes with a travel case.
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#5: Post by LATrapp »

1000% a Decent. I have a LMLM and a Decent and I'd take the Decent all day every day. I have no use for portability, but it kicks the pants off of everything else. It's also not 'cheap' looking or feeling at all. I understand where you are coming from though as I thought the same before I got mine. Love it and it as mentioned portability is part of the package with the suitcase it comes with.

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#6: Post by Pressino »

habaden wrote: I have a budget of around $3000

How much is the Decent (even without the carrying case)?

A small very portable lever, like the La Pavoni's, would be in the OP's budget. Some, I believe, even had carry cases available. :)

habaden (original poster)
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#7: Post by habaden (original poster) »

LATrapp wrote:1000% a Decent. I have a LMLM and a Decent and I'd take the Decent all day every day. I have no use for portability, but it kicks the pants off of everything else. It's also not 'cheap' looking or feeling at all. I understand where you are coming from though as I thought the same before I got mine. Love it and it as mentioned portability is part of the package with the suitcase it comes with.
Decided to do some more research on the Decent and I think that might be the way to go. Looking into it deeper the materials all look very well finished, the only thing that has me worried is longevity of the touch sensors on the brewhead and software on the tablet but otherwise you can't beat the size and capability I think without serious compromise

habaden (original poster)
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#8: Post by habaden (original poster) »

Pressino wrote:habaden wrote: I have a budget of around $3000

How much is the Decent (even without the carrying case)?

A small very portable lever, like the La Pavoni's, would be in the OP's budget. Some, I believe, even had carry cases available. :)
Retail DE1Pro goes for $3500, If I waited for the right sale I could probably get one second hand for my budget or just increase it a bit. I'm going to be in Portland soon and I'm definitely going to see if I can swing by Clive Coffee and pull some lever shots on the Profitec Pro 800 they have just to see if a lever is the way to go because you're right it could definitely save money.

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#9: Post by pizzaman383 »

The commercial spring lever group machines are fairly heavy so portability is questionable.
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#10: Post by bgnome »

There's the Decent Bazaar, where they post refurb machines at slight discount. You have to be very quick though, as it is first-come, first-serve and there are a lot of people trying to grab the few that occasionally pop up.