Should I buy a Slayer Single?

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proftournesol

#1: Post by proftournesol »

Hi
long-time reader, infrequent poster. I'm almost at the end of a long-term project to save for a Slayer single. I currently have a modified La Scala Butterfly and a Versalab grinder. I like my LaScala, what it does well, (since it was modified) it does well, but I'd like to push my home barista abilities by using the added capabilities of a Slayer or a GS3 with pre-infusion and pressure profiling. I live in rural Australia, over 300km from Melbourne, but just outside two tourist towns where there are coffee roasters with Slayers and La Marzoccas, the latter of which is a local La Marzocco agent. I'd plan to plumb in the Slayer, of course. Our house is supplied from a permanent spring with great tasting but acidic water (pH6.4) that we already correct to around pH6.9. We do have variable water pressure of course as it's spring-fed, however most of the time we are just slightly less than mains pressure. The water passes through a two-stage filter to remove particulates. I've read about the early reliability issues with each of these machines although this issue seems to have been resolved.

Would this situation strongly favour one machine over the other?
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Coffcarl

#2: Post by Coffcarl »

I'm sorry, but the Slayer just rocks in looks. If I had 8000 US to plop down, I would go for it. Just the smile from looking at it every morning would be worth it.

Plinyyounger

#3: Post by Plinyyounger »

I too am looking at either a slayer or GS3, I look forward to the responses.
Bought a Max, used a Max, then sold the Max. We are splitting hairs.

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spressomon
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#4: Post by spressomon »

Slayer. Going into my 5th year with mine.
No Espresso = Depresso

proftournesol (original poster)

#5: Post by proftournesol (original poster) »

I'm of course interested in quality and in having some fun with it, but also reliability and whether I might have water issues; how particular is the pump for water pressure?
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Michael

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#6: Post by Ad-85 »

Slayer is amazing! The coffee shop I used to go to had one of those and it was great. Hydra mvp looks amazing too! Unless you want the ultimate machine which is LM Leva X!
Or you can get a decent (which can do everything the slayer does only in a smaller footprint) and a lever machine to have both worlds. Either way let's hear what you're getting and which grinder you chose.
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JohnB.
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#7: Post by JohnB. »

Both machines have stainless boilers so you would want to watch the acidity in your water closely. Both now use rotary pumps so you'd want at least a 2 bar water feed. Either one could have a part failure & both will require some maintenance. Do you work on your own equipment?
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spressomon
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#8: Post by spressomon »

Slayer maintenance over 4+ years of using it every day: I had one of the defective gear pumps between year 2 and 3. Slayer provided the new pump at no charge (out of the original 2-year warranty period) and I installed it; 1 banana job. Other than that I've replaced the seals in the steam arm twice (1/1 banana job) along with group head seal/gasket and new shower screens about 1X per year.

My 1G has been the longest owned espresso machine of all I've owned; ditto the most # of espressos "pulled" through it. I've spent a fraction of the time/$ on maintenance issues compared to my former Londinium LI, PV Export, Pasquini, etc. I can and do steam while "pulling" espresso shots for morning cappas. Although I can't quickly change water temp and profiles ala infinity compared to a Decent...my Slayer delivers the goods nonetheless. If, on a given morning or brew session you like to pull more than one type of bean then the Decent is probably the better machine for you as you can adjust temp on the fly (if, for example, you want to pull a light roast then immediately after you want to pull a dark roast and/or decaf). Whereas I, generally, will get a particular bean dialed in and tweak a little here/there as the days wear on but go through several pounds of beans, or more, before moving on to another bean.

And, again IMHO, the Slayer wins hands down in the aesthetic design department. Its kinda of like comparing a hot rodded Subaru to a Porsche Carrera: Both are exhilarating but not much if any crossover in their respective fanboy camps. Pick your weapon.

Water: IMHO, any boiler fed machine should be using properly balanced water; I've been using Dr. Pavlis very simple and inexpensive distilled + potassium bicarbonate recipe in all my machines for the past 7-years; pick whatever method to arrive at the same destination.
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bobkat

#9: Post by bobkat »

Water: IMHO, any boiler fed machine should be using properly balanced water; I've been using Dr. Pavlis very simple and inexpensive distilled + potassium bicarbonate recipe in all my machines for the past 7-years; pick whatever method to arrive at the same destination.
By using the Pavlis water for 7 years, have you had to descale at all?

Ldstern

#10: Post by Ldstern »

Why did you sell the Max??