Recommend me a good machine/grinder for espresso only please!
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Hi!
I've previously had Silvia/Rocky and found it to be too many variables to consider for making a quick and easy shot.
Things I'd prioritize:
Best possible espresso quality
Quick start-up time
Nice finish/esthetics of the machine
Nice to have:
Ability to plumb into water line
Size is a factor
I'm only interested in making espressos, and would make 1-2 shots every other day.
As grinder I've been recommended a Quamar Q50E. Any thoughts on that?
Models I've been looking at include the ECM Classika PID and Technika IV Profi. I'm aware I'm comparing a single boiler unit with a HX machine
Please give me your input and feedback!
/BR Evert
I've previously had Silvia/Rocky and found it to be too many variables to consider for making a quick and easy shot.
Things I'd prioritize:
Best possible espresso quality
Quick start-up time
Nice finish/esthetics of the machine
Nice to have:
Ability to plumb into water line
Size is a factor
I'm only interested in making espressos, and would make 1-2 shots every other day.
As grinder I've been recommended a Quamar Q50E. Any thoughts on that?
Models I've been looking at include the ECM Classika PID and Technika IV Profi. I'm aware I'm comparing a single boiler unit with a HX machine
Please give me your input and feedback!
/BR Evert
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I have a classika, and I think it fits your needs well.
Ive started to get into milk drinks, and now that my wife is drinking coffee that means I'm making two milk drinks at once, so some day soon I'll have to upgrade, but I really do like the classika.
If you're certain that milk drinks are going to make up a small fraction of your total usage, there's no reason to buy a hx.
Ive started to get into milk drinks, and now that my wife is drinking coffee that means I'm making two milk drinks at once, so some day soon I'll have to upgrade, but I really do like the classika.
If you're certain that milk drinks are going to make up a small fraction of your total usage, there's no reason to buy a hx.
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How about a manual machine then?
How easy are they to operate compared to semi-automatic?
I'm thinking something like a Flair
https://www.flairespresso.com/shop
Or an Elektra Micro Casa?
/Evert
How easy are they to operate compared to semi-automatic?
I'm thinking something like a Flair
https://www.flairespresso.com/shop
Or an Elektra Micro Casa?
/Evert
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For you I would stick with pid single boiler, which will save you money over hx, and step up a level on the grinder, e.g. quamar m80e, ceado e5/e6, eureka atom, etc.
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I went from a semi-auto to a La Pavoni, and I have never regretted it. It's not great for making milk drinks for a bunch of people, but It is fast to heat up, small on the counter, and the quality of the espresso is excellent. There is a learning curve to dial in the process, but once that is behind you making a quick espresso isn't a big deal.evert wrote:How about a manual machine then?
How easy are they to operate compared to semi-automatic?
I'm thinking something like a Flair
https://www.flairespresso.com/shop
Or an Elektra Micro Casa?
/Evert
I am probably going to get a Flair or Cafelat Robot to keep at work. My understanding with the Flair is that it is quite capable, and small, but that it is a bit more fussy to use between boiling the wate, preheating the cylinder, and then the clean up. Something like the Micro Casa A Leva (MCAL) would be better if you don't need it to be portable.
It is worth mentioning that I'm in Colorado, and at this altitude the La Pavoni has been stable with temperature, and I don't need to really do anything to manage it. Temperature control can be an issue with the La Pavoni, and Im' not sure if that's true for the MCAL.
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best possible espresso quality would start with grinder, followed by a machine that allows preinfusion.
1. monolith flat
2. plumbed-in semi automatic e61 machine (line pressure preinfusion via 3 position lever)
1. monolith flat
2. plumbed-in semi automatic e61 machine (line pressure preinfusion via 3 position lever)
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Restored Caravel or Streitman CT1 should also be considered.
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You've described all the selling points of the Strietman Ct1evert wrote:
Things I'd prioritize:
Best possible espresso quality
Quick start-up time
Nice finish/esthetics of the machine
Nice to have:
Ability to plumb into water line
Size is a factor
I'm only interested in making espressos, and would make 1-2 shots every other day.
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One does not need to spend a few thousand on a Streitman as there are a number of pro-sumer vintage lever machines that can achieve excellent results for less than half the cost.
Short list:
Faema Faemina
LPE / Pro
VAM / Caravel
Mcal
Zerowatt 708 ca
Zacconi
Regarding the grinder. Quamar Q50 electronic or manual?
Short list:
Faema Faemina
LPE / Pro
VAM / Caravel
Mcal
Zerowatt 708 ca
Zacconi
Regarding the grinder. Quamar Q50 electronic or manual?
Between order and chaos there is espresso.
Semper discens.
Rob
LMWDP #549
Semper discens.
Rob
LMWDP #549