Quickmill Andreja/Anita vs. Izzo Alex - Page 2
- Niko
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Well that explains it.
Thanks Dan.
I also did some digging around and found this on Sebastian Little's website at:
http://greatinfusions.com/quickmill.html
If you look at the bottom right, he mentions the same thing someone else told me once about the steaming differences.
...and don't get me wrong guys, I love the Anita (I have one) it's just no Andreja when it comes to steaming "power", Anita stills gives the same silky microfoam in a slower way.
Thanks Dan.
I also did some digging around and found this on Sebastian Little's website at:
http://greatinfusions.com/quickmill.html
If you look at the bottom right, he mentions the same thing someone else told me once about the steaming differences.
...and don't get me wrong guys, I love the Anita (I have one) it's just no Andreja when it comes to steaming "power", Anita stills gives the same silky microfoam in a slower way.
- lilotaku
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I found this comment the most confusing because the Anita we have steams exceptionally well, albeit the Andreja we used does steam noticeably faster.Niko wrote: If it's steam power you need, don't even look at Anita (it literally has NONE).
So in essence, you can make the Anita steam just as well as the Andreja by changing out to a higher volume steaming tip? Sound like a pretty easy fix to me if you want to steam faster.
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- Compass Coffee
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To a point yes. However, you wouldn't want to try the massive 6 hole tip I'm using on one steam wand of 2grp LSM for 20oz lattes at the cafe! Matching the steam tip to boiler size to boiler pressure to amount of milk to typically be steamed is a matter of tuning any espresso machine.
Mike McGinness
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Yup, what's been said is true. Anita has a "cheater" tip that intentionally restricts the flow of steam. They have *exactly* the same steaming capacity, due to their having the same boiler and element. What Anita owners are seeing and sometimes misinterpreting as a lack of power is restricted power. I took a pin vise and drilled out the holes in my Anita's stock tip and went from approximately 1 minute to steam 8 oz 40 deg F water to 160 deg F down to about 40 seconds. I still hold somewhere around .9 BAR of pressure in the boiler, so there is still room to experiment. Prior to the mod, I'd manage to get back over 1.2 BAR and have the element click off.
Mike
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Mike, did you try to source a different tip first? I would prefer trying to find one than risking messing up the one on my machine. Since playing around with a Marzocco GB/5 last winter I'm really looking forward to improving the performance of my Anita.quar wrote:Yup, what's been said is true. Anita has a "cheater" tip that intentionally restricts the flow of steam. They have *exactly* the same steaming capacity, due to their having the same boiler and element. What Anita owners are seeing and sometimes misinterpreting as a lack of power is restricted power. I took a pin vise and drilled out the holes in my Anita's stock tip and went from approximately 1 minute to steam 8 oz 40 deg F water to 160 deg F down to about 40 seconds. I still hold somewhere around .9 BAR of pressure in the boiler, so there is still room to experiment. Prior to the mod, I'd manage to get back over 1.2 BAR and have the element click off.
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- Niko
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Anita's still a great steamer, I get beautiful microfoam from it. I'd get another tip to play with rather than drill out the stock one because if you ever sell the machine it would be nice to keep the stock version. Chris didn't cripple the machine by putting that tip on, he wanted people to be able to make microfoam easier. Like many others, I prefer more power so I'd look into another tip.
- Compass Coffee
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Niko wrote:If it's steam power you need, don't even look at Anita (it literally has NONE).
So which is it?Niko wrote:Anita's still a great steamer, I get beautiful microfoam from it.
Mike McGinness
- Niko
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There I go again putting my foot (I mean steam wand) in my mouth!
I should've said "great foamer (not steamer, I guess)..."
Still get great foam, just not fast if you haven't figured it out, that's why I have the Vivaldis (for speed).
Anita's for my travels, I keep it in the trunk.
I should've said "great foamer (not steamer, I guess)..."
Still get great foam, just not fast if you haven't figured it out, that's why I have the Vivaldis (for speed).
Anita's for my travels, I keep it in the trunk.
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No, I didn't bother sourcing a new tip...Wouldn't be hard, it's a standard steam wand. I simply didn't feel like wasting the money buying several different ones, preferring to work with what I had. If you're looking for a new one, I'd call Chris' Coffee and ask what they recommend. Personally, I was never satisfied with the stock tip and found it to be particularly hard to make microfoam, compared with the higher volume steam that I was used to working with. Anybody considering this needs to be aware that I was using a pin vise with a *tiny* drill bit...Not a 1/8" bit chucked into my Craftsman drill. The bit I used was probably a fraction of a millimeter.
Mike
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I like the Vetrano's higher-volume tip but it did take some getting used to. If you're used to the lower-volume tips the Andreja (and Vet) will simply blow you out of the water and have the milk hot before you can get good foam with it.
I'm by no means a pro at steaming milk (I drink straight espresso so when I do it its for my friends, not me) but I can make decent microfoam now... it just took some practice.
I'm by no means a pro at steaming milk (I drink straight espresso so when I do it its for my friends, not me) but I can make decent microfoam now... it just took some practice.