Prepping for a major upgrade: Profitec Pro 700 + Ceado E37s

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Boricua

#1: Post by Boricua »

Hello guys, first time writing here! I am a daily cappuccino and espresso drinker. For over 10 years, I have been grinding my own (small batch, high quality mostly Puerto Rican coffee) using a good, albeit lousy as hell Lelit burr grinder, and brewing cappuccinos and shots with my trusty Rancilio Silvia.

I decided it was time for a significant upgrade, so I just ordered a Profitec Pro 700 and a Ceado E37s grinder... Even though I feel confident of my tamping technique, I went ahead and ordered an Asso Jack Leveler in 58.5 and a bottomless portafilter. Come next week, I should have everything installed. Every day I prepare a few cappuccinos and shots, and when I entertain, sometimes I make half a dozen or more cappuccinos at once. I am looking forward to the time savings I'll get on my workflow coming from the Silvia! I have not considered getting the Profitec flow control add-on because I don't experiment that much with coffee beans (I am partial to medium, City roasts) and because I want to make sure that my wife can feel confident using the machine (I'm applying to myself the KISS principle here).

Water wise, I currently use filtered water for espresso, with an APEC WATER Top Tier Supreme Certified Alkaline Mineral pH+ High Flow 90 GPD 6-Stage Ultra Safe Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Filter System to fill the reservoir by hand.

Given that the Profitec Pro 700 is plumbable, I am considering going that way, but that will require me to purchase a separate water filter system because the location (and water pressure requirements) of the coffee station won't allow me to share the Apec system. So, I would like to pick your brains on a few things:

1. Is my current filtration system adequate to fill the reservoir while I get to the plumbing? It is an RO system with Alkaline Mineral pH+
2. Is the pricey BWT Bestmax Premium Filter Package with Besthead FLEX sold by WLL and others the most adequate option or are there other options to consider?
3. I am considering adding the pressure regulator to the filtering system to achieve 2 bar line preinfusion as per WLL recommendations. I have very consistent pressure in the house of about 60#.

moderator note: see Water filtering and plumbing choices for Profitec Pro 700 for follow-on discussion

4. Do you guys have any grinder seasoning recommendations for the Ceado E37S?
5. Can you provide any specific advise on setting up and fine-tuning the Profitec Pro 700? I will be connecting both devices to a Siri controlled and programmable power switch to simplify warming up the Profitec at least 30 minutes before coffee making time
6. On plumbing, I am still debating whether to make a hole in the gypsum board wall to gain access to the coffee station's sink water supply vs. drilling my granite countertop... I could use some recommendations on permanent fixtures I could place on the wall or granite to fix the braided hoses to, instead of just running the hose through a wall.
7. In your experience, can this Ceado grinder and Profitec machine share a 20amp power breaker?

Thank you in advance for sharing your thoughts and knowledge!

bobkat
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#2: Post by bobkat »

Congratulations on your new purchases!
7.In your experience, can this Ceado grinder and Profitec machine share a 20amp power breaker?
I am using an ECM Synchronika and Ceado E37S on a 20 amp breaker....with no problems.

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Jeff
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#3: Post by Jeff »

I'd split out your water questions into the Water section -- the gurus there many not see this here. See Water filtering and plumbing choices for Profitec Pro 700.

I would also get a good WDT tool. The ones I have found most effective are the LeverCraft and, if on a budget, the JKim Makes one. (Both of these also are innovators, which I prefer to support over the copies that they have spawned.)

I usually can get stale beans, test or blown roasts or the like from local roasters. A modest charge or a healthy tip to cover their time is my practice. I don't know the Ceado burrs, but I typically won't try anything until at least 5-10 kg through a new electric grinder. I would let the grinder cool a while if it starts to feel warm. Probably good for a manual as well, but that's a lot of hand grinding!

Boricua (original poster)

#4: Post by Boricua (original poster) »

Thank you!

Boricua (original poster)

#5: Post by Boricua (original poster) »

Jeff wrote:I'd split out your water questions into the Water section -- the gurus there many not see this here.

I would also get a good WDT tool. The ones I have found most effective are the LeverCraft and, if on a budget, the JKim Makes one. (Both of these also are innovators, which I prefer to support over the copies that they have spawned.)
I am wondering if I really need a WDT in addition to the Asso Leveler since I am making a sizable investment in the Ceado E37s. That grinder has an excellent rep for low clumping.

I also posted my other consult in the water forum to reach "specialists"

freditoj

#6: Post by freditoj »

No answers to your questions...just wanted to drop in and say hi to a fellow boricua!

Have you tried Cafe Don Pello?

Boricua (original poster)

#7: Post by Boricua (original poster) » replying to freditoj »

Hola! Nice meeting you here. Ay bendito, I have heard of Don Pello's brand but have not tried it yet. There is a new coffee service specializing in shipping small batch, specialty Puerto Rican Coffee that I believe sells it. They are called Cuela (https://cuela.coffee/en). Good service for our fellow forum members to try our Island's coffee offerings.

freditoj

#8: Post by freditoj »

Ay bendito jaja

It's a great coffee and they ship to the U.S. for those expats (like myself).

https://www.donpello.com/s/shop

Good to know that there are services that ship locally roasted coffees as well!

Sorry for the thread hijacking.

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Jeff
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#9: Post by Jeff »

Boricua wrote:I am wondering if I really need a WDT in addition to the Asso Leveler since I am making a sizable investment in the Ceado E37s. That grinder has an excellent rep for low clumping.
Any of the "leveler" tools do little more than smooth the top couple of mm. Even with a grinder without issues, it is valuable to get the grinds homogenous in the basket. The Ceado E37 grinders have distribution problems discussed in threads here, as well as in this review that was commissioned.

CSME9

#10: Post by CSME9 »

Boricua wrote:Hello guys, first time writing here! I am a daily cappuccino and espresso drinker. For over 10 years, I have been grinding my own (small batch, high quality mostly Puerto Rican coffee) using a good, albeit lousy as hell Lelit burr grinder, and brewing cappuccinos and shots with my trusty Rancilio Silvia.

I decided it was time for a significant upgrade, so I just ordered a Profitec Pro 700 and a Ceado E37s grinder... Even though I feel confident of my tamping technique, I went ahead and ordered braided hoses to, instead of just running the hose through a wall.
7. In your experience, can this Ceado grinder and Profitec machine share a 20amp power breaker?
Boricua saludos....

I have ran numerous similar machine grinder combinations on 20 amps with no issues.

Will have to try Don Pello when I visit la Isla next month.