@Nico86 I am basically looking for the same info. I think I'm leaning towards the Nurri mostly because it's a bit smaller but from what I can tell functionally they both will provide what I want and then some. Unfortunately, I'm still trying to figure out how to buy one in the US (Nurri is supposedly coming to Clive Coffee but no idea the cost yet).

I don't mind the electronic gadgetry on the Vostok but do wonder if having a bit less (as on the Nurri) might serve me better over time. I do like the paddles on the Nurri as they seem to provide a more interactive method of handling the machine which is sort of the whole point of a lever machine in the first place.

Honestly though, I would probably be VERY happy with either but those are some points that I've been considering. And if another machine exists that provides similar functions I'd be curious? Not discounting any of the others at all, just really like what these two machines seem to provide. Without owning one, or really seeing too many videos/reviews on them it's hard to gauge. Lance did a great video on the Vostok but all the Nurri videos are small workflow, pull a shot, talk about it a bit type items. I would love to see a side by side as they seem to be extremely similar devices.

scotthep wrote:@Nico86 I am basically looking for the same info. I think I'm leaning towards the Nurri mostly because it's a bit smaller but from what I can tell functionally they both will provide what I want and then some. Unfortunately, I'm still trying to figure out how to buy one in the US (Nurri is supposedly coming to Clive Coffee but no idea the cost yet).

I don't mind the electronic gadgetry on the Vostok but do wonder if having a bit less (as on the Nurri) might serve me better over time. I do like the paddles on the Nurri as they seem to provide a more interactive method of handling the machine which is sort of the whole point of a lever machine in the first place.

Honestly though, I would probably be VERY happy with either but those are some points that I've been considering. And if another machine exists that provides similar functions I'd be curious? Not discounting any of the others at all, just really like what these two machines seem to provide. Without owning one, or really seeing too many videos

/reviews on them it's hard to gauge. Lance did a great video on the Vostok but all the Nurri videos are small workflow, pull a shot, talk about it a bit type items. I would love to see a side by side as they seem to be extremely similar devices.

Scott, i believe that you can contact Antonio nurri directly on his email supplied on the nurri website. I don't know at what stage is the deal with clive coffee but he may be able to sell the nurri directly to you if u want one on a more urgent basis. Another member on HB had done so and he was sent his nurri directly and antonio gave him a good price as it was on a direct sale basis before Clive had been appointed. At the least he should be able to enlighten you on when is Clive expecting to receive their machine stock.

I don't think there is anywhere in the world where u can do a side by side comparison between the vostok and the nurri... But for what the nurri and the acs machines offer at their price bracket, I don't think there is anything else on the market that can do what they can do currently - not unless you vault into the stratosphere of pricing with the LM LEVA X and the multi grouphead idrocompresso!

What precisely are u wanting to see in a video of the nurri leva in operation? There are a number of videos on the net showing it being used and they do show the workflow of the nurri being used. Is there any aspect of the shot that you are finding that the existing videos are not showing that you want to view?

@Primacog, appreciate the info. I reached out to Nurri and Antonio responded telling me I should reach out to Clive. When reaching out to Clive I was told they are receiving their initial/test (not sure) units this week and they would contact me once available. So that's super exciting. I'm not in a huge rush as I need to gather my funds anyways, but I am looking to grab one sooner rather than later.

Time will tell how orders go for a niche machine like this, sometimes they are limited supply and require "standing in line" so to speak.

I'm not sure there is one thing I "need" to see in video format. I'm just spoiled by some of the more comprehensive reviews you see on many other devices. Most of what I've seen was from very early when it was being announced or very short clips of a particular type of shot or drink being made. I would be curious can it do many of the common type of shots you might see on something like say a Decent machine? One of the reasons I like the Nurri, and the Vostok, is because it seems to give you the classic lever profile along with the ability to be more flexible because of the pump and do some other things as well. I'm aware it is NEVER intended to be a replacement for the Decent but I'm just curious what the Nurri can and can't do well?

FWIW - when Clive gets the Nurri in, I'll go check it out and if there are any videos you want to see, give me ideas and I'll post them here. I doesn't look like Antonio will have a booth at the SCA show, but there was a rumor he might be attending...

wrote:Bezzera Strega Top

What it does not have:
PID temperature control

Have you considered to replace thermostat with PID to control group head temperature? It is a relatively straightforward job.
PID-ing the Bezzera Strega

Looks like Clive finally posted their Nurri info. I was hoping it would land a bit cheaper than that. Not shocking I guess.

scotthep wrote:@Primacog, appreciate the info. I reached out to Nurri and Antonio responded telling me I should reach out to Clive. When reaching out to Clive I was told they are receiving their initial/test (not sure) units this week and they would contact me once available. So that's super exciting. I'm not in a huge rush as I need to gather my funds anyways, but I am looking to grab one sooner rather than later.

Time will tell how orders go for a niche machine like this, sometimes they are limited supply and require "standing in line" so to speak.

I'm not sure there is one thing I "need" to see in video format. I'm just spoiled by some of the more comprehensive reviews you see on many other devices. Most of what I've seen was from very early when it was being announced or very short clips of a particular type of shot or drink being made. I would be curious can it do many of the common type of shots you might see on something like say a Decent machine? One of the reasons I like the Nurri, and the Vostok, is because it seems to give you the classic lever profile along with the ability to be more flexible because of the pump and do some other things as well. I'm aware it is NEVER intended to be a replacement for the Decent but I'm just curious what the Nurri can and can't do well?

On video reviews, there has not been any video review done by any of the bloggers so far. Charlie Moritz of Home Cafe on YouTube has bought a Nurri leva as his main machine and he has mentioned on his YouTube channel that he is working on a full length review of his machine so that should be forthcoming soon.
Tompoland is also an owner of the nurri and is a member on this forum and other coffee forums and he is working on his own detailed review of the nurri. There may not be any video for his review though if his past reviews on other gear indicates.

I expect that as this machine becomes more widespread there will be more reviews surfacing and video on the nurri leva becoming uploaded.

I am glad to hear that Clive coffee is getting their nurri demo machine in this week and I see it is on their website too ...

https://clivecoffee.com/products/nurri- ... o-machines

The price they are offering it at is more expensive than the price was last year when I bought mine. However Clive has specc'ed out for that price a package which includes fancy wood panels which would cost more and so I expect a bare trim package would cost less.

On your queries on comparisons between the decent and the nurri, I personally think the decent sits in a category all its own. It is more for the experimenter who wants to be able to try out programs thra can change a single variable or any number of other variables to see how that affects the taste of the coffee produced. It Is like a test bed. But like a test bed, the hands on experience is basically inputting a program and pressing a button and watching it make the coffee. Although there is an ability to intervene to change the pressure manually through a touch sensor on the grouphead, it is decidedly lacking on the tactile experience when compared to more conventional machines and especially when compared to levers.

As well it promises to be able to simulate other machines by following programs that try to replicate other mahcines. This particular promise I think however is something it may not succeed quite as well at particularly where it concerns lever machines. The spring lever is a totally different type of machine which uses a spring or set of springs to power the extraction and provides a column of hot water to pressurise the grouphead with. The traditional spring lever is built around the lever profile with all the modifications that techniques like the fellini move can impart.

Consequently to me, a person looking for a lever would not normally even be thinking of the decent as an alternative and vice versa, but that's me. YMMV...

The nurri is an enhanced lever that has all the abilities of a traditional spring lever but with much more control over pressure and temperature and the ability to end the shot at any time as well as with a full fledged rotary pump that can cut in before, alongside or after the springs at any time. The particular special thing that the nurri does as opposed to how the vostok primarily does it is (in addition to having the more powerful pump) that these additional abilities are performed in a manual and tactile manner through the paddles and rotary pump control dial as opposed to being programmed thru touchscreen or by push button operation. Hence the nurri executes these additional functions according to the same manual and tactile paradigm that the lever already exemplifies.

Thus to me, the nurri leva brings the spring lever into the 21st century in terms of updated functionality, abilities and looks and compatibility with the preference for lighter roast coffee nowadays, while remaining faithful to its manual roots in terms of the hands on experience and workflow.

scotthep wrote:Looks like Clive finally posted their Nurri info. I was hoping it would land a bit cheaper than that. Not shocking I guess.

Yikes, that's a lot especially compared to other hybrid lever machines