Looking for "buy once and buy right" grinder recommendation

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mbroder
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#1: Post by mbroder »

Hi,

I am very new to the espresso world. I am a "buy once and buy right" kind of person. Can anyone recommend a top-tier grinder based on the fact that I intend to use this for home use? Any details at all such as where to buy would also be appreciated.

PS - I bought a Delonghi la specialista arte and I am already regretting it and thinking I need to spend extra $ and upgrade. Any espresso machine recommendations and/or where to buy would also be appreciated.

Thank you

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retireddude
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#2: Post by retireddude »

If you're interested in single dosing (vs an on-demand grinder with a hopper) you can't go wrong with Kafatek. https://www.kafatek.com/

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JB90068
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#3: Post by JB90068 »

What is your budget? That will help us make recommendations. If you haven't figured it out already , grinders start at around $50 and can go up to a little over $4,000.
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jgood
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#4: Post by jgood »

For a moderately priced grinder I am impressed with the Niche Zero -- a conical single dose grinder. A caveat is that I am a dark (traditional) roast drinker, so I have no experience with light roasts. Have a look on Home Barista and you'll find many discussions re: flat vs conical. Niche is ordered directly from them online, on their website. In terms of a machine, what's your budget? And IMHO where you buy it is important as you will eventually be doing some small repairs and will need guidance on that and also with questions that arise as you start out.

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#5: Post by erik82 »

What you're asking is impossible. First read into all of the basics so that you know what you're lookng for. We can recommend you the most expensive grinder which may not be suitable for your taste and worklow preference while a grinder costing only 20% would have been much better for you.

And if you really want to go that route you'll also need a superb espresso machine as the Delonghi is crap and a superb grinder won't fix that. Then things can range from 4K to 30K total. Expect a minimum of 800 dollars for a very good grinder and 2K for a good espresso machine going up to 4K for a superb grinder and 4-10K for an espresso machine.

mbroder (original poster)
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#6: Post by mbroder (original poster) »

Thanks guys, all very helpful info. And yes I need to decide on a budget which I have yet to do.

I see I can save some serious $ buy getting a manual grinder. I see the BPLUS : Apollo has a good writeup on this site. Would this produce grinds comparable to say something like the BARATZA SETTE 270 GRINDER or are electric grinders worth the extra $ for superior quality. ( I don't mind the work, I am only interested in quality)

Ben Z.
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#7: Post by Ben Z. »

Those grinders will "work" but you are really far from the title of your thread.

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Jeff
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#8: Post by Jeff »

Without a budget, there's a lot of hand waving going on.

With the Delonghi, you're seriously limited and a $4,000 grinder isn't going to help solve that problem. Even a $500 grinder won't help.

Start with a budget and put out your goals, then the advice you'll get will be more actionable. As a rough guide, it is hard to recommend much below about $600 for a manual machine like a Cafelat Robot and a good hand grinder like a 1Zpresso K-series if you want to make espresso. Below that, you are probably better off with a similar-quality hand grinder and a filter setup to maximize in-cup quality. An Aeropress or moka pot is another option for stronger coffee on a budget.

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#9: Post by skink91 »

Fellow beginner myself... one thing I would keep in mind regarding this all: your personal preferences may also evolve over time (whether that is over weeks or months or years) from brew type to roast type etc., and the level of 'rightness'/suitability for each of the grinders for each of those applications will likely vary.

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#10: Post by Finley72 »

We all started somewhere and my first unit was the Breville Barista Express and this didn't last very long. Espresso is about consistency and It became frusrtating to pull back to back shots and the grinder was limiting as you will see with the Delonghi very quickly.

When I upgraded to a proper heat exchanger with a Sette 270wi life became so much better as I learned how to make espresso and explore what I really like. I am now far past this, so to speak, but as its been said there is no "right" unit. Buy as suggested something that works and can be consistent.