JonF wrote:I know one goal in espresso machines is consistency. But one aspect that I find appealing in both of these units is that, when desired, you can easily tweak the shot (either by advance programming or by on-the-fly paddle). Consistency is nice, but there are times I start my Vivaldi, with programmed pre-infusion and programed dosage, and just want to try something different. Both the Bianca and the DE1+ fit his scenario without getting too expensive.
I do have a steaming question for anyone. Every AM I need to texture milk for one rather large latte . . . for my wife. I steam 8 oz milk in a 16 oz pitcher. Time is not critical, as I'm in no rush, but can both units handle this rather large amount with good results?
Finally, a mechanical question pertaining to the Bianca. I was just wondering on how the unit (pump and/or plumbing) handles the pressure buildup of running whilst having the flow constricted or even shut down by the needle valve. Does Lelit bleed of pressure somehow?
another_jim wrote:This is a hole in the DE1 specification, since it is targeted at straight espresso pullers. For one cappa a day, it might work; for a small shop or cafe, it's a non-starter. Think of it as a superbly programmable shot puller with emergency milk capability.
another_jim wrote:I was under the impression that the DE1 cannot pull shots and stream simultaneously.
another_jim wrote:So these are somewhat ridiculous fanboy objections to my point: the DE1 is the most programmable profiling machine; but it is not by any stretch of the imagination a cappa machine when compared to anything at in the same price range. If milk frothing is high on the buyer's specs; the DE1 is not a good choice.
TomC wrote:It's not any stretch of the imagination, it's just your perception. Not everyone steams and pulls shots simultaneously at home anyway. Many like me, will watch the flow and blonding of the shot, and focus on the milk separately.