Help me pick my next espresso machine, please! - Page 2
Not sure I would settle due to budget in your case. You know you enjoy espresso for the long run and you have machines that you want that are just outside of your budget. I would patiently wait for a good used model, which I did with a GS3 and am very happy with my purchase after performing routine maintenance on it. Or keep setting some money aside for your dream machine. Since you have a machine that works perhaps it wouldn't be too painful to wait a bit longer?
- baldheadracing
- Team HB
Morala Trading in Ottawa is the Kees distributor for Canada. Drive up and save the shippingBaristaBoy E61 wrote:I haven't seen a KvdW Speedster Idromatic that can be dropped at my door for less than almost $25,000CND - Tax in!

Second edition has shipped; third edition should be announced soon. I'll be going down to the factory sometime in March and will post an update if there is some news.Mat-O-Matic wrote:If my resources were different, I'd go to great lengths for a Lapera. Don't know what their current story is.
Unless one is willing to risk being an early adopter, I would recommend waiting on the Nurri until 120 volt machines are in the hands of others. (This isn't specific to Nurri; history tells us that initial runs of 120 volt machines can have issues that 240 volt machines do not have.)Primacog wrote:... There is now a canadian distributor for nurri that carries the nurri and will lrovide service and maintenance support for it. ...
-"Good quality brings happiness as you use it" - Nobuho Miya, Kamasada
There is already at least one person i am aware of who imported a nurri into the states a couple of months ago and he has not reporred any voltage issues.baldheadracing wrote:Morala Trading in Ottawa is the Kees distributor for Canada. Drive up and save the shipping.
Second edition has shipped; third edition should be announced soon. I'll be going down to the factory sometime in March and will post an update if there is some news.
Unless one is willing to risk being an early adopter, I would recommend waiting on the Nurri until 120 volt machines are in the hands of others. (This isn't specific to Nurri; history tells us that initial runs of 120 volt machines can have issues that 240 volt machines do not have.)
LMWDP #729
Primacog wrote:Actually the lever arm will stick out in front so the machine will fit under most ordinary kitchen cabinets with space to spare. The only impediment is that in order to open tbe kitchen cabinet door directly over the lever, you will meed to pull down the lever handle first. This was the case even with the Izzo pompei that i owned before i bought the nurri and the izzo is significantly bigger. I used it happily for many years and the fact it was under a kitchen cabinet did not impede me. Hence i wouldnt let space stop me from considering a lever if i were you.
For your budget of 8k (USD?), i dont think there is anything that will match what a hybrid lever like the nurri will offer. Once you try a lever, many people have found they lost the desire for a pump machine - and the nurri improves on all the things where a traditional spring lever doesnt do so well. There is now a canadian distributor for nurri that carries the nurri and will provide service and maintenance support for it.
https://idrinkcoffee.com/products/nurri ... zebra-wood
My budget is 8k cad, nurri would be doable but i fear the cost will go up considerably as everything I have is 58mm (tamper, Weber key etc).
Does the bypass water from doing preinfusion/flow control bother you? Sprometheus makes it sound like the machine is super thirsty and wastes a lot of water.Milligan wrote:Not sure I would settle due to budget in your case. You know you enjoy espresso for the long run and you have machines that you want that are just outside of your budget. I would patiently wait for a good used model, which I did with a GS3 and am very happy with my purchase after performing routine maintenance on it. Or keep setting some money aside for your dream machine. Since you have a machine that works perhaps it wouldn't be too painful to wait a bit longer?
The fact the gauge twists with the paddle irks me a bit as well, how is it for you?
I could definitely wait a little or sell some collection stuff to raise my budget.
Apparently the gs3's valve design is responsible for why a lot of water is dumped into the drip tray.
LMWDP #729
Do u mean u bought a 58mm funnel for the key? Otherwise I don't see how the diameter of yoir portafilter makes any difference as the grinder will be just as usable for a machine of any portafilter size.brooksie967 wrote: My budget is 8k cad, nurri would be doable but i fear the cost will go up considerably as everything I have is 58mm (tamper, Weber key etc).
IMHO I tend to look at this question of accessories this way - making a choice on one's machine based on what size your accessories are in, would inadvertently end up making the machine the accessory instead. After all you bought those accessories because they fitted the machine u had at the time. You bought them because of the machine - not the otjer way around. The machine is the primary- they are the accessories. If so isn't it having the unintended effect of putting the cart before the horse to make a choice on your next machine based on what size your current accessories are in?
It seems to me that all you really need is the tamper, a wdt tool (which doesn't depend on size of portafilter) and a funnel, isnt it? If so, that seems really cheap to me compared to the cost of the machine. You could even use the very nice tamper that comes with the nurri (thoigh it is slightly smaller than the portafilter size) while you save up for the custom tamper. Of course YMMV ...
LMWDP #729
I visited a fellow coffee addict recently and checked out his YOU.
He upgraded from a LMLM iirc and is very happy.
It is insanely programmable from laboratory style to your missus walks up and pushes a button.
There is a lever for profiling if you want and it is all in a relatively small well made package.
It is too much machine for me but don't be off put by reports of gremlins if it ticks your boxes.
You can find details on CoffeeSnobs.
He upgraded from a LMLM iirc and is very happy.
It is insanely programmable from laboratory style to your missus walks up and pushes a button.
There is a lever for profiling if you want and it is all in a relatively small well made package.
It is too much machine for me but don't be off put by reports of gremlins if it ticks your boxes.
You can find details on CoffeeSnobs.
You make good points for sure!Primacog wrote:Do u mean u bought a 58mm funnel for the key? Otherwise I don't see how the diameter of yoir portafilter makes any difference as the grinder will be just as usable for a machine of any portafilter size.
IMHO I tend to look at this question of accessories this way - making a choice on one's machine based on what size your accessories are in, would inadvertently end up making the machine the accessory instead. After all you bought those accessories because they fitted the machine u had at the time. You bought them because of the machine - not the otjer way around. The machine is the primary- they are the accessories. If so isn't it having the unintended effect of putting the cart before the horse to make a choice on your next machine based on what size your current accessories are in?
It seems to me that all you really need is the tamper, a wdt tool (which doesn't depend on size of portafilter) and a funnel, isnt it? If so, that seems really cheap to me compared to the cost of the machine. You could even use the very nice tamper that comes with the nurri (thoigh it is slightly smaller than the portafilter size) while you save up for the custom tamper. Of course YMMV ...
The magic tumbler on the key fits a 58mm portafilter. Haven't seen anyone with an adapter for 54mm.
I actually did write off the machine based on the reports of gremlins. Are the issues resolved?Amberale wrote:I visited a fellow coffee addict recently and checked out his YOU.
He upgraded from a LMLM iirc and is very happy.
It is insanely programmable from laboratory style to your missus walks up and pushes a button.
There is a lever for profiling if you want and it is all in a relatively small well made package.
It is too much machine for me but don't be off put by reports of gremlins if it ticks your boxes.
You can find details on CoffeeSnobs.
Also, isn't the machine an HX not a dual boiler?
Just looked at the price again $11,000cad