Pressino wrote:If you are interested in the Key grinder, for some reason that I can't explain, a lot of them are showing up NIB on the Buy/Sell forum here at HB.com.

While no doubt there can be extenuating circumstances,

baldheadracing wrote:Some people ordered the grinder in hopes of reselling for profit. An MSRP of $2k with an IGG price of $1.5k seemed like an easy 33% profit.

- Step up grinder from Niche Zero > Weber Key?

Also, some people got tired of waiting and ordered something else.
My brother finally got (and kept) the Key he ordered, but wouldn't made it through the wait if I hadn't loaned him my second Kinu M47.

I just recently purchased the Lagom P64 and could not be happier. I upgraded from a Mazzer Mini that was almost 20 years old. The Key was on my short list of grinders that I was considering, as well as the Turin DF 83 grinder.

https://www.espressooutlet.net/turin-df ... e-grinder/

Thanks for all your feedback and advice. I decided to go for the P64, either with SSP HU or the new Mizen burr... or with both

That would be me
I have the HU and Mizen on order. Unfortunately shipping on the latter has been pushed a couple of times. Fun will begin after Christmas as it stands

Ah cool, then my choice seems to be reasonable

The Mizen burrs are currently shown as sold out, but I can select them when ordering the machine (with delivery late March). I reached out to Option-O whether/ how I can order both burr sets and at which cost, but they didn't get back to me yet... have to be patient until delivery anyway.

i just got my p64 last week and loving it so far. i came from df64. i was also debating on the weber key as it seemed like something in between a flat and a conical. i ended up staying with flat as i had other burrs already from df64. i have ssp mp , hu, and ls v2. i abslutely love the p64. it's exactly the grinder i was looking for. clean up was easy and workflow was great. i use the portafilter straight as i didn't like the versa cup that came with it. i only use the cup when i do pourover. adjustments are easy and zero pt cal is great.

i also have a zerno z1 coming that i ordered before p64. i just got lucky with p64 with prima when they had some afew weeks ago so i pulled the trigger. was interested in the variable rpm more. but zerno has potential. we'll see once i get it.

Got a reply: Getting both burr sets from option-o is unfortunately not possible. I will go with the SSP HU then to be on the safe side.

To close this off: thanks a lot for all the friendly replies and the advice! Highly appreciated It was a close race between the key and the P64. The 3 month wait is a bit annoying, I hope the machine is worth it and pays back for the wait time with excellent espresso.