Best espresso machine/grinder "in the cup" at budget of $3000, $6000, and $9000 - Page 17
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Oh, two months is not really THAT long.lifevicarious wrote:No, not yet. Have a little time before the big 4 0, 2ish months, not that I will wait THAT long.
I think many people can spend several years figuring out to which high-end machine/grinder to end up with.
I suppose it is the first combo that usually is the one where one gets busy with (but I suppose usually they are sub-1K entry-level combos).
So don't worry, the more you study your options, the less you'll worry afterwards.
You have had good choices given here though.
But it'll be interesting to hear which way you'll end up.
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Bump.
Must be close to the OP's 40th birthday. Wonder which machine he purchased, if he was actually in the market for one?
Must be close to the OP's 40th birthday. Wonder which machine he purchased, if he was actually in the market for one?
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I've been searching for a $3000 setup and have been having a heck of a time. The suggestions provided really can't be done for that price because the E10 is an $1875 grinder.
I'd be interested to know what the OP ended up purchasing.
<edit> I stand corrected, that espresso machine is about $1300 so that is very close to the $3k budget. I ended up spending more for a Lucca A53 from Clive. I couldn't be more excited to get it. I have waited sooo long to bring good espresso into my home.
I'd be interested to know what the OP ended up purchasing.
<edit> I stand corrected, that espresso machine is about $1300 so that is very close to the $3k budget. I ended up spending more for a Lucca A53 from Clive. I couldn't be more excited to get it. I have waited sooo long to bring good espresso into my home.
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Realized I never closed the loop on this. I ended up (although about 6 months later) with a Duetto and a K30. No complaints about the combo other than filling the Duetto since it's not plumbed (may be soon). This thread (and others) convinced me that there really was no difference "in the cup" based on the machines so didn't see the reason to spend any more for a machine.
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You did well...that set up will bring you years of pleasure!!!
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Those are great choices. Congrats.lifevicarious wrote:Realized I never closed the loop on this. I ended up (although about 6 months later) with a Duetto and a K30. No complaints about the combo other than filling the Duetto since it's not plumbed (may be soon). This thread (and others) convinced me that there really was no difference "in the cup" based on the machines so didn't see the reason to spend any more for a machine.
Excluding proprietary features, with espresso machines above the $2000 range, much of the purchase decision is based on aspects "outside the cup". Form-factor, Performance (recovery, temp stability, duty cycle), Build Quality, Reliability, Fit and Finish, Aesthetic, Brand Recognition/Loyalty... are all things people will pay more for. These things add greatly to the overall user experience, not just in the consumption of the output. I am proud to admit that I find more enjoyment out of the cup than in the cup when it comes to espresso. Not to suggest my espresso isn't great--I make wonderful coffee.. But so does the shop across the street.. My guess is that in most cases for high-end buyers, the overall user experience is at least as important as the enjoyment of the coffee itself.
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Agreed. While I still don't have issues with performance, even about 7 months in, I might do things slightly differently if/when I were to do it again. There are a couple areas of fit and finish that aren't quite perfect on the Duetto (the warming tray and the drip tray aren't quite perfect), and I find the lever and clearance between the PF and drip tray a little smaller than I like. All are really issues when trying to measure weight and or time of the shot with my brewista scale (which I actually don't really love). But hey, there could always be a Slayer in the cards down the road!
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I realize the OP already made a decision, which looks to have been a very good one I might add!
But, for the $9,000 option, and simply as a theoretical comparison to other nominees in this category, I'd like to throw out what I believe would offer:
a) incredible taste
b) smooth and simple workflow
c) flexibility
d) longevity
e) beauty
f) consistency:
Titus Grinder
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Izzo Alex Duetto Espresso Machine
But, for the $9,000 option, and simply as a theoretical comparison to other nominees in this category, I'd like to throw out what I believe would offer:
a) incredible taste
b) smooth and simple workflow
c) flexibility
d) longevity
e) beauty
f) consistency:
Titus Grinder
and
Izzo Alex Duetto Espresso Machine