When did this espresso extraction go blond? [video quiz]

Beginner or pro barista, all are invited to share.

When did this espresso extraction go blond?

A
1
0%
B
6
2%
C
13
4%
D
58
17%
E
80
23%
F
124
36%
G
50
14%
H
16
5%
 
Total votes: 348

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Postby HB » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:15 pm

The Home Barista's Guide to Espresso advocates ending the extraction by color, meaning blonding of the stream of espresso. But does everyone agree what "blond" means? To test, I created a video of an ordinary espresso extraction with markers A.. B.. C.. through H.


When would you cut off this espresso extraction?







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Postby jesawdy » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:57 pm

Hmmm. 6 votes and 6 different answers right now.... goes to show you that it's different strokes for different folks. I voted G, but F looked like it was about there.
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Postby Spresso_Bean » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:00 pm

I voted F because it looked like the blonding started to show in a few areas at that point, but it still looked pretty decent even at H. I've had worse and still drank it.

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Postby Jasonian » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:53 am

Better lighting probably would have helped.
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Postby welone » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:24 am

I voted for F although it was hard to decide.
my 2 cents are that the beans as well as the type of grinder strongly influence the sharpness of the blonding point. When I changed from the MDF to the K-10 the blonding point became much more fuzzy. When using 'older' beans (already a week out of roast) the blonding point seems to become more distinct. Also when using a lower dose the blonding point is easier to detect than with a high dose.

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Postby CoffeeOwl » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:10 am

voted F, though maybe it could be E as well

EDIT: where I would stop it. :D

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Postby ntwkgestapo » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:37 am

I went for G (F was close, but decided G was closer!)... Oh well, different strokes for different folks! :D
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Postby stevendouglas » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:00 pm

I went for D. I usually end the extraction when the "crema cone" volume drops significantly, which it seems to toward the very end of D.
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Postby JonR10 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:11 pm

I had a tough time deciding between D and E (either could apply for me)
Anyways....I went conservatively with D

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Postby ThaRiddla » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:43 pm

i went F, but I could see going to G. The video is a little dark on my screen here at work as well.


I'm so used to spouts that I might be able to tell better on a spouted pf.