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Soupy puck syndrome

Postby ArnoudB on Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:08 pm

I'm suffering from the soupy puck syndrome (sps).

Since I started using fresh beans my espresso's taste good... they look good with the crema rising like Guinness beer... they take about 25 seconds for a 2oz shot, and the first drop will take about 10 seconds to come through, on the standard double spouted PF. I have a Silvia with PID and constant pressure mod. Temp. is 105oC (221F)

Is this wet puck something I'm doing wrong, or just a quirk from the pressure modded silvia?

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Postby TimEggers on Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:17 pm

SPS = BS

More seriously if the espresso tastes good the resulting puck is of little value. Did Michelangelo worry about the shavings across his sculpting room floor?
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Postby ArnoudB on Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:28 pm

well it's still annoying to get the soup out of the PF ;-)
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Postby howard seth on Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:22 pm

Mr Eggers has made a good point.

However, I have felt your pain, with a different (past) machine. Yes. There really is a nastyness to soup pucks; but I do not own a Silvia, I do not know what can give you those nice tidy dry ones. Someone will soon have a suggestion for you, I figure.

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Postby shadowfax on Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:37 pm

ArnoudB wrote:well it's still annoying to get the soup out of the PF ;-)


If you don't like cleaning up a soupy puck ( :?: I don't see what the issue is--they still knock out just about as well...), try increasing your dose and making your grind coarser. the resultant cup will have much different character, and you may have more difficulty getting consistently good shots, but you will almost certainly have drier, prettier pucks.
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Postby Randy G. on Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:16 pm

ArnoudB wrote:I'm suffering from the soupy puck syndrome (sps).


I get soupy pucks from my Vibiemme Domobar Super lever paired with a Mazzer Kony... Imagine how annoyed you would be using that equipment! Doesn't bother me at all. I throw the pucks out and keep the espresso. :wink:
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Postby shadowfax on Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:19 pm

Randy G. wrote:I throw the pucks out and keep the espresso. :wink:


:shock: Why? You don't like the mushy cookies? 'Spro Soup? Sounds good to me. :P
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Postby another_jim on Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:20 pm

ArnoudB wrote:I'm suffering from the soupy puck syndrome (sps).


Use a higher dose of coffee; your espresso will probably suck, but the pucks will be gorgeous.
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Postby mckolit on Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:51 pm

To get my pucks drier on my machine, which is a single boiler machine, I just leave the portafilter in there while I steam my milk and pour the art. This usually gives enough time for the puck to dry out. Ofcourse if I had to make back to back shots, I'm out of luck. Getting soupy pucks is annoying because of the clean up at the shower screen and surrounding areas. Choking the machine is an absolute nightmare.
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Postby CoffeeOwl on Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:45 pm

On Vivaldi the soupiness of the puck depends on the moment of removing the portafilter from the group. At least thet is my experience. I never cared for that anyway.
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