prima-coffee.com: coffee & espresso equipment and accessories

Making ristrettos

Postby matt1203 on Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:52 am

I am reading Andy's brewing chart on espresso, and ristretto brewing ratio.

for espresso is more 40 to 60%, for ristretto is on 100 to 140% side, so my question is in order to make ristretto
should I adjust to finer grind setting in order to maintain the same shot time lets say 20 to 23 sec.

or just stop brewing earlier ?
matt1203
 
Posts: 34
Joined: Aug 26, 2011
Location: New York

Postby HB on Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:02 am

For a ristretto, grind finer and/or dose slightly more. The extraction time is slightly longer due to the lower flow rate (see How Al's Rule Saved My Life for explanation). A ristretto isn't simply the first two-thirds of a regular double pour; that would be an unextracted and underdeveloped double espresso. See the rule of thirds for more details.
Dan Kehn
User avatar
HB
 
Posts: 13173
Joined: Apr 29, 2005
Location: Cary, NC
www.wholelattelove.com: our caffeinated commitment to you
www.wholelattelove.com: our caffeinated commitment to you

Postby allon on Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:48 am

HB wrote:For a ristretto, grind finer and/or dose slightly more. The extraction time is slightly longer due to the lower flow rate (see How Al's Rule Saved My Life for explanation).


Does this mean that we should subtract time for < 30ml?
Interesting. That could explain some of the fantastic shots I've pulled when I thought I choked it - even 15ml in 60 seconds - I thought it would be overextracted, but it wasn't.

Hm, finding the original......
I'll include it here, as the Al's Rule referenced in the previously linked post only covers extracting more, not less, and the original includes notes specifically for Ristrettos.
"Most people don't drink this as their everyday drink"
How times have changed.
(okay, most people probably don't, but more of us do :))

From March 23, 2000:
Al Critzer wrote:It seems that everyone's close, but pretty much all around it. As I was trained, the perfect espresso is 30ml in 30sec. That's assuming that all other factors are in line. For longer extractions, the contact time of water to coffee would have to be lessened so that undesirable elements associated with overextraction wouldn't be present in the cup. With shorter extractions, the water to coffee contact time would have to be increased to ensure that underextraction doesn't occur. This is accomplished by grind adjustment. A good rule of thumb I have developed is this: For every 5ml of espresso above 30ml, subtract 1 sec of extract time. By this formula 11/2oz (45ml) would require 27sec extraction, 2oz (60ml) would require 24sec, etc. The same holds true in reverse. This will find the sweet spot in espresso regardless of volume in the cup (within reasonable limits of .75oz to 2.5oz), as you are optimizing extraction to the desirable elements, maintaining the balance between under- and overextraction. For some reason, grinder adjustment and it's crucial impact on espresso is the most difficult concept to explain and grasp in all the trainings I do. As to ristretto. This a different drink altogether. If your grinder is set for regular espresso, and you choose to stop the pour at 25ml, this is simply an underextracted espresso. You haven't hit the sweet spot yet. The " restricted" part referred to as ristretto is not so much related to volume as it is to water flow through the coffee puck. The ristretto that has been used for cuppings is a 25ml cup in 30-35sec. This extraction intensifies the organoleptic perceptions of the eyes, nose, taste buds and upper palate to better isolate the positive attributes of a given blend. Where the positives are accentuated, the negatives are exacerbated as well. The extractions are characterized by a very thin mouse's tail with rich, dark brown crema. Most people don't drink this as their everyday drink, but it is helpful in developing blends. If you customarily drink 25ml (or 50ml doubles), your grinder should be adjusted accordingly. Damn, I did it again....al
LMWDP #331
User avatar
allon
 
Posts: 1078
Joined: Apr 23, 2011
Location: Northern VA


Return to Tips and Techniques