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Postby Arpi on Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:26 pm

Hi folks

I've put a video of the sifter distribution technique here



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Postby Bluecold on Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:51 pm

How do you do it when other people ask you for an espresso? It would take you ten minutes to make 4 espresso's!
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Postby Arpi on Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:58 pm

I guess it is OK only when you want to go the extra mile because it takes longer to weight the grounds and to prepare the portafilter. It is just another option I guess.

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Postby malachi on Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:13 pm

zin1953 wrote:
  1. Is it only me, or does anyone else fail to see a need for this?
  2. Am I the only one who thinks this is due principally to the staleness of the Lavazza?
  3. Am I the only person who thinks this is just a more complicated version of the WDT ritual, but needing more equipment?

What am I missing?


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Postby espressme on Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:36 pm

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49mm funnel in bottom.

FWIW. With my Rocky DL, I used, and needed, the small sifter with a built in funnel as was shown here lo these ages ago. With the SJ doserless I found some less need for it. The MPN doser didn't need it. With the Vario, I find I get the grind and fluff I want most every shot.
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Postby fredfal on Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:28 pm

zin1953 wrote:
  1. Is it only me, or does anyone else fail to see a need for this?
  2. Am I the only one who thinks this is due principally to the staleness of the Lavazza?
  3. Am I the only person who thinks this is just a more complicated version of the WDT ritual, but needing more equipment?

What am I missing?


I'm also with you. Though I applaud anyone who does anything remotely to improve their espresso (and I think this sifter/shifter/shister technique shows great innovation), I got a K-10 so I wouldn't need to do lots of crazy stuff and still get great espresso.

In the time it took me to watch that video, I'd have enjoyed three shots and been headed out the door on the way to work.
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Postby Arpi on Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:45 pm

Hi. Thanks for the responses.

I am intrigue by how you guys prepare low doses. I mean from 7 grams to 10 grams in single baskets or from 11 to 12 or so in double baskets?

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Postby drdna on Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:51 pm

The best way that I have found to dose below the top of the basket's edge is to sweep with a curved implement like the lid from a peanut butter jar as I explained here.. Different lid sizes will give a different dose.

Clean the lid first, unless you want a peanut-butter-ucino.
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Postby HB on Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:31 am

Or get shallower baskets. For example, the "E61 12g" baskets sold here. I don't have a photo of the 12, 14, and 16+ gram basket side-by-side, but you get the idea in the comparison below:

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The one on the left is a 14 gram basket, the one on the right is a typical stock Faema-style basket, which holds 16+ grams. The 12 gram basket is similar in depth to the 14 gram basket, but the bottom is slightly tapered:

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PS: Also see related topic Proper distribution technique when "down dosing" using WDT.
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Postby SlowRain on Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:33 am

Thanks Arpi and drdna for your ideas.
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