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Postby The_Mighty_Bean on Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:55 pm

dcmusichound wrote:Maybe it's a DC-metro region issue, because I have been experiencing something very similar, very light colored pulls. Interestingly, the coffee looks okay, like a tiny glass of guiness, but coming out it is blond from the very start. I have started increasing my dose and have already reached the low 20 gram range, based on a suggestion from one of Intelligentsia baristas I had a chance to chay up at CoffeeFest DC this past weekend. I also watched him pull a shot. I noticed that when he finger leveled the grounds he didn't actually level it but left a healthy mound in the center of the basket. That has been my goal, but even at 20+ grams, using the WDT means there isn't enough grounds in the basket to do a proper leveling off. I wonder if my Rocky is fluffing enough.

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Hey Joel, glad you're back in the espresso wars.

Yeah, btw when I say blond, I mean a sort of cafe-au-lait color. Just not red-brown like it oughts ta be.

Hear hear, Rich needs to come over. And bring that Vivaldi out with him. ;)

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Postby Bushrod on Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:12 pm

Now, Ari, you know the Vivaldi is chained to the counter, as it were. :D
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Postby Javier on Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:54 pm

Bushrod wrote:Maybe it's just you DC and MD people. I"m getting beautiful pours from Redline right now.


+1 :wink:

Currently enjoying Gimme! espresso beans.

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Postby Jasonian on Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:50 am

Well, for what it's worth, I know Heather likes to dose a LOT of coffee for this blend. (like, a whole lot)

21g comes to mind.

If the shot gives up the ghost early, it means there wasn't much ghost to give in the first place.

The solution? Start with more contents, and you'll have more to extract from the puck, resulting in a longer extraction.

(that's the very rudimentary theory, anyway, and I realize it's not as simple as that, but it's a rule of thumb that works more often than not for me)
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Postby The_Mighty_Bean on Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:20 am

Jasonian wrote:Well, for what it's worth, I know Heather likes to dose a LOT of coffee for this blend. (like, a whole lot)

21g comes to mind.

If the shot gives up the ghost early, it means there wasn't much ghost to give in the first place.

The solution? Start with more contents, and you'll have more to extract from the puck, resulting in a longer extraction.

(that's the very rudimentary theory, anyway, and I realize it's not as simple as that, but it's a rule of thumb that works more often than not for me)


Thanks Jason, I'm gonna give the stuffed triple another try tomorrow. I know she jams it into a double, but I'll hit showerscreen and channel out if I try that.

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Postby Jasonian on Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:03 pm

The_Mighty_Bean wrote:Thanks Jason, I'm gonna give the stuffed triple another try tomorrow. I know she jams it into a double, but I'll hit showerscreen and channel out if I try that.

-tmb

She does it with a stock LM basket on an LM group-head.

Dosing 15g, I bottom out on the ridge on those things. They'll hold a lot, given the same "designed" head space. (entirely dependent on the machine)
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