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Link to "Designing a couple of experiments"by King Seven on Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:29 pm

So I have a new toy to play with - it is a water boiler built by a company called Marco in Ireland, based on an idea we had.

After the Clover made people a little more obsessive over cup by cup brewing (whether they owned one or not), I felt it would be useful to have a boiler that could dispense an accurate, repeatable temperature of water.
We also asked them to build scales into the machine to help brew more accurately. (Those who follow our little videocasts will know I am big into using scales when brewing coffee)

For a quick intro into how it works I made this Videocast.



So far it looks like the machine gives extremely repeatable results - though I am currently just measuring using a k-type right at the point of delivery. This is the result of 5 brews at the same temperature:

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What I want to do is design a few experiments, not only to test the equipment but also to understand brewing coffee better. I figure once I really do have consistent water temp and delivery then we can start to measure and test the effects of things like pre-heating french presses, working how big of a jump in temperature throughout the whole brew is detectable by taste and probably many other things. This is where you guys come in!

If you have any thoughts and suggestions then I am all ears. Suggestions for experiments (and any wisdom on conducting them!) very welcome. I will post results up here, and hopefully we'll get some good discussion out of it.

Right now I can't reveal exactly how the boiler does what it does, but that will become clearer in good time.

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Link to "Designing a couple of experiments"by AndyS on Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:48 pm

King Seven wrote:Suggestions for experiments (and any wisdom on conducting them!) very welcome.


I'm interested in the tradeoffs we make in brewing coffee. For example, grinding finer sort of allows one to steep for a shorter period of time, but only to an extent. This relationship would be interesting to investigate.

Brew temperature and steeping time is another one.
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Link to "Designing a couple of experiments"by another_jim on Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:53 am

I'm going to ramble a bit, please be patient

Two Points:

First: Cupping is a relatively poorly controlled comparison of coffees, since cups are not poured, nor crusts broken, at the same time. However, the results tend to be fairly repeatable. As I've done more and more cupping, I've gone to coarser grinds, lower brewing temperatures, and longer steeping times as the best way of overcoming these imperfections. Since the water is cooling off, time differences in breaking the crust are less likely to be a problem. Also, the long steep time tends to erase differences in initial temperature. A five liter Zoji takes care of keeping the all the water I pour at the same temperature (whatever it is). The end effect of all this is slightly under-extracted coffee with fairly clear taste and not much bitterness. The difference between a four and six minute brew time, if there are a lot of crusts to break, is negligible.

Second: The same coffee done as open bowl cupping tastes better than French Press using identical grinding and steep times. The reason is simple. The act of pressing down on a French Press squeezes the grinds and releases over-extracted, bitter flavors. The rule is the less the grinds are disturbed, the better the cup.

What does this mean for someone wanting to reinvent single cup brewing?

The finer you grind, the faster you extract, the more you man handle the grinds, the more precise you have to be to get a halfway decent extraction. This is why espresso, even at its most precise, remains so variable. That is why Clover brews were almost invariably muddy and uninspired.

So my suggestion is to test your new methods for a "speed limit," the point at which faster brewing yields unreliable, uninspired cups. Every increase in precision could potentially increase the brewing speed, but each such speed up requires better grinders, better temperature control, better timing, and better grind handling. Otherwise you just end up with overrated mud cups.
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Link to "Designing a couple of experiments"by King Seven on Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:36 am

AndyS wrote:I'm interested in the tradeoffs we make in brewing coffee. For example, grinding finer sort of allows one to steep for a shorter period of time, but only to an extent. This relationship would be interesting to investigate.

Brew temperature and steeping time is another one.


OK - let's start with the last one - brew temp vs steep time.


So we keep the steep time consistent, let's say 4 minutes, and we brew a press pot using as similar technique as is possible. Perhaps the cupping style of untouched crust, three stir break, clean and then press. Or perhaps no press but pour through cloth. Cool and chart out the extraction?

Would it be best to monitor the temperture in the liquid over the 4 minutes, and create an average temperature as a point of reference? I am discovering that pour height and vessel temperature have a huge impact on brewing temperature work with a fixed water temp from the exit spout.
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Link to "Designing a couple of experiments"by AndyS on Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:06 pm

King Seven wrote:So we keep the steep time consistent, let's say 4 minutes, and we brew a press pot using as similar technique as is possible. Perhaps the cupping style of untouched crust, three stir break, clean and then press. Or perhaps no press but pour through cloth. Cool and chart out the extraction?


Pour through cloth sounds good. With a little practice you could probably get your pour speed and pour time to be pretty consistent.

King Seven wrote:Would it be best to monitor the temperture in the liquid over the 4 minutes, and create an average temperature as a point of reference? I am discovering that pour height and vessel temperature have a huge impact on brewing temperature work with a fixed water temp from the exit spout.


Taking average temperature measurements would be instructive, but not all that practical in generating a recommended brewing method.

Can you get two of the magic temperature-controlled Uber Boilers? Then you could use two identical brewing vessels, both equalized to room temperature. Brewing both vessels more or less simultaneously, at two different water delivery temperatures, would make for easy and meaningful comparisons.
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