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Postby cmom on Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:29 pm

I toss my filter in the oven occasionally at 200 degrees. After about 30 minites let it cool and then tap it on the counter. All opened holes in the basket. My mother used to do it with the stove top mocha pot cup.
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Postby cannonfodder on Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:37 pm

Now that is a neat trick. never thought of that. I just scrub with kitchen sink scrubby pad now and then after a detergent portafilter/basket soak.
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Postby drdna on Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:18 am

I admit that I am so anal that it never even occurred to me that anyone would let those little stray grinds stay there. I always wipe them off into the basket and re-tamp. It keeps my machine shower-head clean. I have no idea about the taste. Then again a dirty grouphead can make your shots bitter and foul-tasting. If you are using a clean machine now by virtue of your modification in technique, I could totally understand your observation.
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Postby sorrentinacoffee on Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:15 pm

I always clean my PF's and baskets in an autoclave - then store them shrink wrapped in liquid nitrogen- only preheating them in a specially designed 'kiln' immediately before use. I don't tamp either: I use an ultrasonic sound bench- to 'de-fluff' the grind into the basket- before placing it in my specially designed vacuum chamber for final compaction, and micron polishing.... Of course I keep my espresso machine in a controlled humidity, dust free enclosure (and I mean dust FREE)- maintained at very low atmospheric pressures... in pure nitrous oxide- the entire extraction is filmed via high speed and and infrared cameras which are hooked up to the HX of the machine to provide instant feedback and temperature corrections throughout the shot with microcompressors at the puck service applying controlled 'undulating' pressure profiles of my choice. .

but that's just me ;-)

and I am still not getting as much crema as i would like....
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Postby JmanEspresso on Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:35 pm

Must be the liquid nitrogen. . . Try using a glycol solution. . . Should increase crema production.
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Postby Nik on Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:55 am

My wife is an obsessive cleaner and to keep peace in the kitchen I keep everything clean as I go. She is respectful of my obsessions in my office so I must respect hers. She uses the espresso machine several times a day when I am not there and it is actually nice when I return to find it clean.

After knocking the puck out of the PF I (we) then clean it after each shot with running water, place it back in the head and run hot water through it again, wipe down and prepare for next grind. We also wipe down the screen after each shot as well. I know this would not be possible in a busy environment but it works for us in our kitchen. I find it easier to clean as you go. The tray is also emptied after each session as well.
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Postby sorrentinacoffee on Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:48 am

that's a great idea- and I hadn't thought of that. I will try it out tomorrow with my Guatemalan Monsooned robusta pygmy beans- I believe the glycol (if kept sufficiently cool) could provide just the base I need to promote complete molecular 'unification' or 'cohesion' of the brass PF surfaces immediately prior to going into the kiln! That way all the extra ionisation will actually be able to promote enhanced flow of the espresso emulsions throughout the brew process rather than impeding it as before. Stroke of genius! This could be a Eureka moment alright... mustn't get too excited.
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Postby HB on Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:13 am

OK, enough silliness for one thread, thanks.
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