Best weight curve versus best temperature curve

by **Arpi** on Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:49 am

Hi

Is there a bell shaped curve also for dose weight? What are the thoughts and opinions between changing flavor by changing dose weight versus changing flavor by changing temperature?

Cheers

by **malachi** on Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:54 am

Depends on the coffee.

by **danetrainer** on Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:33 pm

From the thread "Best new espresso blends?"

malachi wrote:Best (new) espressos of the last year for me:
- Ecco Caffe Ethiopia Beloya
- Ecco Caffe Experimental #1
- Intelligentsia Black Cat Panama Finca Santa Teresa
- Square Mile Winter Espresso

-- note... this doesn't mean these were the best espressos for me of the year - just that they were the best NEW ones. --

How about the SO Beloya, one that I am familiar with and seems to wear many faces:
# days since roasted, temp, weight & of course roast level...we can go by "Ecco's" roast level to standardize things...

I would really appreciate hearing your thoughts!

by **Arpi** on Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:48 pm

malachi wrote:Depends on the coffee.

I agree. Each coffee has a best spot. It seems that the impracticality of precisely dosing a selected amount of grounds makes the temperature variable preferable since all you have to do is to dial the number, meanwhile that weighting the coffee is cumbersome. But is there a sweet personal density region, measurable with a brix refractometer? Doesn't temperature affect the extraction density as well?

Cheers

by **danetrainer** on Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:04 pm

When I visited Billy Wilson at his cafe and asked him to pull me a double from the Cyncra, I asked what temp he would adjust the machine too, he said he doesn't change the temp around (because of different coffees he would use the machine for...even though both brew heads are independent) but adjusted the dose for a given coffee.

by **Arpi** on Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:14 pm

There is also another way to change the flavor. By adjusting the grinder and making the grounds finer or coarser, keeping the amount of coffee and temperature equal, makes a big difference in the flavor. Finer grounds bring out the higher tones of the beans. But since everybody uses different grinders and the beans are changing life beings, recommended settings will not work the same for everybody.

Cheers


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