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Postby Bob_McBob on Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:32 pm

Just to add to the thread, it is VERY, VERY obvious if milk is bad when you steam it. I once steamed a pitcher of milk that smelled all right, but all the protein and other solids coagulated and formed a solid layer on the top. Absolutely revolting!
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Postby JmanEspresso on Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:47 am

That sounds pretttttty gross.

When I bought Anita, in the included instructions, Chris mentions that some milk just won't froth, mainly, "Crowley" brand milk. It mentions, if you're having trouble, try a different brand, and that if you still have trouble, Parmalat works well for them. So, I just went ahead ahead and bought some Parmalat Whole Milk, and Ive used it for capps ever since. I can also drink Parmalat straight, but I rarely do. I find that, compared to the other brands available to me, Parmalat is sweeter, creamier and richer. Those are three things that go well with making a good capp. Parmalat is all I will use.. Mainly because it froths very well, but also because it tastes the best to me. And, another plus about parmalat, is that, unopened, its got a 6-month shelf life, NON-refriged. During any given week, unless friends come over, Ill make maybe 4-5 capps. I rarely drink them, those 4 or 5 are my Father. So, I can keep a good amount of it on hand, but don't have to worry about it turning if I don't use it up right away.
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Postby TeMpTiN on Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:18 am

The milk from my local Giant never foams well. Trader Joe's works great ant it is cheaper so that's where I buy now. Not that your issue has any thing to do with this but I went through 3 different pitchers before I found the right size and shape that works for my machine and I.

Edit to mention that after I got the third pitcher I noticed that the orientation of the three hole tip does make a difference.
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Postby kuoyen on Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:45 pm

bill wrote:..., but Organic Valley hardly foams at all. Last week my wife bought a couple gallons of Whole Foods store brand organic and it's the worst of all. No matter what I do the foam comes out as large sea bubbles which collapse immediately.


Same experience with normal Organic Valley and most of Whole Foods milk here. I normally used Lactaid till two weeks ago I decided to give Organic Valley Omega 3 milk another shot. It works beautifully!! Very silky, smooth, fine microform. More importantly, the flavor from the steamed milk is just right and well-balanced with the espresso for cappuccino. Personally I do feel that though Lactaid whole milk tastes great, it can overpower the espresso after milk is steamed. (PS: I make 5-6 oz cappuccino sometime with one shot, sometime with double.)

Another thing I found at least from Organic Valley and Lactaid is that ultra pasteurized milk works better than pasteurized milk. I do not know if it's the same for other brands or applied for all milk.
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Postby TrlstanC on Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:09 pm

The worst results I've ever had trying to steam milk was with raw milk straight from the farm. I was really looking forward to trying a cappa with it since I usually don't do anything bigger then a machiatto, and this milk is delicious. But I couldn't get more then a little microfoam to form, I thought it would be easier with the higher fat content, but I'm guessing it was the lack of homoginization that caused the problems.
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Postby Vad on Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:33 pm

First thing I'd recommend in troubleshooting, is to clean/soak the steam wand in Cafiza (or something of that sort) and clean the holes really well. Even if then milk does not foam, then look for problems elsewhere.
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