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Postby Endo on Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:18 pm

The Dalla Corte Mini seems to use a very cheap OPV compared to the one used on Mini Vivaldi. Can someone comment on what affect this might have?

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Mini-Vivaldi OPV:

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Postby HB on Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:24 pm

Endo wrote:Can someone comment on what affect this might have?

Affect on what? I cannot imagine it makes any difference in terms of shot quality.

Expobars have had the same OPV for years. Judging from the Expobar Brewtus III, they recently switched to one that looks similar, but has a metal adjustment screw instead of nylon. The one you pictured on the Vivaldi is also on the Quickmill and a host of other espresso machines. It's less finicky to adjust and looks more sturdy; I have no data to claim one is more or less reliable than the other.
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Postby Endo on Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:31 pm

From what I read in the article below, the Dalla Corte Mini OPV (plastic fluidotech) is the cheapest of the lot and would struggle to achieve lower pressures:

http://coffeetime.wdfiles.com/loc...alve/OPV_Valve.pdf

I'm surprised they are using it on this expensive machine when it has already been replaced on the cheaper Expobars.
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Postby HB on Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:42 pm

Interesting. We certainly had no trouble adjusting the brew pressure:

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Not to encourage bit-wise comparison of espresso machines, but the Fluid-o-Tech is rated for continuous duty (PDF specs). The ubiquitous Ulka pumps have a one minute on, one minute off duty cycle.
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Postby Marshall on Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:37 am

Endo wrote:From what I read in the article below, the Dalla Corte Mini OPV (plastic fluidotech) is the cheapest of the lot and would struggle to achieve lower pressures:

http://coffeetime.wdfiles.com/loc...alve/OPV_Valve.pdf

I'm surprised they are using it on this expensive machine when it has already been replaced on the cheaper Expobars.

I guess this answers the question, "Are all Vivaldi owners obsessed with the Dalla Corte?" :D
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Postby another_jim on Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:09 am

It seems the rumored bad blood between the two companies has spilled over to their users. Welcome to the house of Capulet, Marshall. Bet you didn't know who you were joining when you bought the machine. :roll:
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Postby RapidCoffee on Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:15 am

Marshall wrote:I guess this answers the question, "Are all Vivaldi owners obsessed with the Dalla Corte?" :D

At least one is not. :P Maybe I'm the exception that proves the rule.
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Postby akallio on Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:18 am

HB wrote:Expobars have had the same OPV for years. Judging from the Expobar Brewtus III, they recently switched to one that looks similar, but has a metal adjustment screw instead of nylon. The one you pictured on the Vivaldi is also on the Quickmill and a host of other espresso machines. It's less finicky to adjust and looks more sturdy; I have no data to claim one is more or less reliable than the other.


It was switched in later models of Brewtus II, for a good reason. I had a Brewtus II with the original OPV (nylon screw), and it was completely incapable of controlling pressure to around 9 bar. So I switched it to a new OPV (metal screw) and that was barely capable of controlling to 9 bar.
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Postby Jacob on Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:44 am

Marshall wrote:I guess this answers the question, "Are all Vivaldi owners obsessed with the Dalla Corte?" :D

What happened to the GS/3 obsession? Doubt is a bitch :mrgreen:
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Postby Endo on Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:49 am

The Dalla Corte Mini and the Mini-Vivaldi are similar in design, so it's natural to compare. No envy here, I could have bought either and been just as happy. I'm pointing out the OPV because it seems odd to use that one.

Now GS/3 envy....that's another thing. :D Chas Rimpo (the owner of the S1cafe forum) just bought a GS/3. Some dreams do come true.
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