The Announcements above the forum listing frequently contains "quotable quotes" nominated by Team HB
and the membership. Entries in the announcements are limited to recent quotable quotes; below is the
unabridged collection with links to their source in the forums.
We hope these nuggets of wisdom and amusing quips
will lead you to a deeper understanding of the art of espresso.
Cluelessness is not limited to amateurs
"There's always a temptation to believe it only applies to clueless amateurs; but as many abashed wine and food experts know, the more expertise you have, the greater your store of experience and vocabulary with which you can delude yourself." --Jim Schulman, Want your coffee to taste better? Call it Eco-friendly
Celebrate small victories
"Feeling like I know zero. But hey, it's a win if I can get everyone to call HX machines 'humpy things'" --Damon Bowe, HX vs. Double Boiler Espresso Machines
Reality of life from the vendor's viewpoint
"In real life terms, if you've got an unexpected demand for a particular machine, you can be looking at a 4 to 6 month delay between the time you order them and when they arrive. At which time you can only hope they're still popular." --Alan Frew, Why is it so difficult to find espresso equipment in stock in the USA?
Put up or shut up
"AND if you want to really make a difference in the coffee world out HERE, kiss your job and security good-bye like I did and do something about it. Complaining is easy." --Mike McGinness, owner of Compass Coffee Roasting, Why Do Cafes with Great Machines Make Bad Espresso?
Tell me what you think of my choices and don't hold back
"Of the two grinders you asked to compare, there is a difference. One will be inadequate and the other woefully inadequate. I'll let you decide which you prefer." --Brandon (pacificmanitou), Baratza Virtuoso vs. Rancilio Rocky
"I distinctly recall my disappointment the first time I tried a cup of specialty coffee. I didn't want a clean and nuanced cup. I wanted a bitter and roasty brew. People learn to like what they drink everyday. It's tough to overcome that without changing their expectations somehow." --David, When "good" coffees fail to impress
Simplification of the HX vs. double boiler espresso machine debate
"If you pull different espresso blends each day, double boilers are a pain since you can't change temperatures on the fly. If you pull just one very persnickety blend, an HX is a pain since you can't dial it in its temperature as precisely and repeatedly. You just need to know how you like to pull shots." --Jim Schulman, HX vs. double boiler temperature stability
Can't fight indifference
"SOME people can be shown the way to artisan coffee. SOME people become mesmerized by that first taste of real coffee. I was. You were. Most dont care. Even IF they taste the difference, they could really care less." --Jeff Cirelli, What is wrong with Starbucks?
Blame happily accepted
"I blame you guys. I was perfectly happy with what I had and you led me down the path of questioning whether there might be something better. Ignorance is bliss and all that. Now I have a probably unobtainable goal to shoot for." --Alex Kilpatrick, OK, you guys have ruined me
For the hundredth time: It's still the grinder, stupid
"To make good espresso, an espresso machine (any one) needs a quality grinder much more than the grinder needs a good espresso machine." --Dave (genovese), Grinder upgrade from Rancilio Rocky
Don't be ruled (fooled?) by what you measure
"Blindly extracting to a set of mathematically determined parameters is to serve the point of developing consistency in the cup. Once you let the parameters start overriding what you taste, that's what you should care about." --George Van Wagner, Why should I care about blonding?
Be wary of imaginary problems
"I think/hope I may just be a bit too anal about things. Will just carry on my own routine and enjoy the coffee like everyone suggested." --J. Yow, Help with messy pucks
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