Pipe thread standard for water fittings?
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Does anyone know what pipe thread standard is used for the input water supply line on the direct connect Vibiemme espresso machines? The hose terminates in a male threaded fitting. How about the Inoxdep rechargable water filter that is sold by 1st-line? It has a male fitting for input and output. Both items are manufactured in Italy, so unless it was specifically modified for the US market, I imagine it's whatever is normally used in Italy.
I called 1st-Line tech support today and was told that they were "metric threads". I found a metric thread standard ISO 261, but that seems to describe screw threads rather than pipe threads, as best I can tell. Home Depot and Lowes and similar stores only seem to carry NPT fittings. I know I can get most anything that is made from McMaster Carr. I don't want to use the wrong type of fittings and risk damaging the existing threaded fittings.
1st-Line has a 1.5 meter hose with female couplings on both sides and a female/male adapter that I can use to extend the water line on the VBM and connect to the output side of the water softener. But I still need to know the pipe thread standard, at least for the water softener, so I can connect the input line to it (output from my sediment and charcoal filter).
I called 1st-Line tech support today and was told that they were "metric threads". I found a metric thread standard ISO 261, but that seems to describe screw threads rather than pipe threads, as best I can tell. Home Depot and Lowes and similar stores only seem to carry NPT fittings. I know I can get most anything that is made from McMaster Carr. I don't want to use the wrong type of fittings and risk damaging the existing threaded fittings.
1st-Line has a 1.5 meter hose with female couplings on both sides and a female/male adapter that I can use to extend the water line on the VBM and connect to the output side of the water softener. But I still need to know the pipe thread standard, at least for the water softener, so I can connect the input line to it (output from my sediment and charcoal filter).
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They are BSPP threads in accordance with ISO 228. I BELIEVE the male thread on the machine is 3/8"-19 BSPP. If so, it would have a diameter of ~16.7 mm. The fittings on the water softener you referenced are similar, if not identical.
BSPP threads are oftentimes referred to as "metric" but that is incorrect.
BSPP threads are oftentimes referred to as "metric" but that is incorrect.
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Thank you Eric. I know that the big box home improvement stores don't carry such fittings, but there are several plumbing supply stores around here where I think I'll have better luck.
- cannonfodder
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There are two types, BSPP and BSPT. The P is parallel thread the T is for taper thread. Parallel thread seals against the back of the fitting it is screwing into. Taper thread seals against the threads. McMaster-Carr carries a lot of fittings and adapters for BSP to NPT applications.
Dave Stephens
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That's good info, Dave. Eric said that these are BSPP in this case, so hopefully I won't find out they are BSPT. I'd hate to have to buy parts twice!
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I believe the machine fittings and hose ends are all parallel-threaded (ISO/BSP); I don't know whether the inoxdep fittings are parallel or tapered. Here's a reference to some adapters that may be relevant:
http://www.swagelok.com/search/find_pro ... b802a7f8ac
http://www.swagelok.com/search/find_pro ... b802a7f8ac