ONE POST WINNERS? - Page 2

by HB on Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:55 pm

DaveM wrote:Actually, I suspect many folks are like me, too green to offer much good advice, able to find answers to their burning questions from previous threads, and therefore do not post very often.

weasel wrote:I second Dave M. Almost all of the discussions I see are way above my skill level. There is little I can add.

Tag Team Jesus wrote:I have always felt that the level of technical knowledge is impressively high over here on H-B. I more often post on CoffeeGeek than here, because my technical know-how wanes in comparison...

hwieniawski wrote:I happen to have recently joined the forum, and haven't posted anything, as I can't really contribute at this point.

RogerB wrote:I stand humbly in awe of most of you who are regular contributors. If I had more useful things to say, I would, but my equipment is modest and even though I have years of "experience" with coffee and espresso, I'm only scratching the surface when it comes to the quest for the perfect shot.

Pshaw! Everyone has skills in different areas, everyone is at a different point along their learning path.

What's important is a willingness to thoughtfully share techniques, observations, and suggestions for others rather than trying to impress your peers with your collective knowledge. Many of the most interesting discussions on HB were initiated by newcomers asking questions. Need convincing? Peruse the unabridged FAQs and Favorites. Plenty of the linked topics were not started by regulars (BTW, for the longer version of the "HB philosophy", read the site's Guidelines for productive online discussion).

Coming back to the comments above, Jon (TTJ) mentioned offline that he planned to relegate his new Le'Lit PL53 to presspot duty and keep his Macap MC4 for espresso. I bet him the new little grinder will take the bigger incumbent in blind taste tests. He's accepted the challenge and I encourage him to post his research along the way and his conclusions.

by **weasel** on Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:44 am

OK, I accept HB's Pshaw challenge. I will post a question or two in the next couple of days (hopefully

). I saw something recently on WLL that got my little brain stirring.
I just need to figure out how to start a post.....and get a bunch of errands out of the way.

by **Tag Team Jesus** on Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:07 am

HB wrote:Pshaw! Everyone has skills in different areas, everyone is at a different point along their learning path..

Right on, man. Thanks for the words of encouragement.

HB wrote:Coming back to the comments above, Jon (TTJ) mentioned offline that he planned to relegate his new Le'Lit PL53 to presspot duty and keep his Macap MC4 for espresso. I bet him the new little grinder will take the bigger incumbent in blind taste tests. He's accepted the challenge and I encourage him to post his research along the way and his conclusions.

Ha! Dan, it just dawned on me that the Dan I was talking to in e-mail today was YOU...I thought it was some dude named Dan from Espresso Care. All the merrier, it was nice talking to you earlier about the Le'lit grinder. Yeah, after your statement about this grinder keeping up with or even surpassing my Macap, I'm super curious to explore what falls into my cup with a side-by-side comparison. If all this is true, maybe the Le'lit grinder deserves to be included in the "top-end espresso grinders" review. eh, eh? We shall see. Can't wait to play around.

by **Lurkerjohnny** on Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:51 am

I understand why this contest has a 48 states rule, the vendors want to attract from their "largest" customer base. It just sucks being a potential customer who happens to be one of those who lives in Hawaii, the 50th state.

As for the one post winner who was disqualified for living in Hawaii, he too is very much a potential customer who is looking to upgrade his Silvia/Mazzer combo, he just isn't into posting on the internet.

by **Bushrod** on Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:48 pm

HB wrote:Personally it pleases me when a long-time member wins.

[rant] What really sucks is when a new member accepts delivery of a gift with nary a thank you and is never heard from again. Yes, in the past two years, several winners accepted gifts worth hundreds of dollars and my e-mails simply asking that they publicly say "thank you" to the sponsors were ignored. I sincerely hope that doesn't happen again this year! [/rant]

*Whew* I've been waiting a long time to get that off my chest.

You may notice that one of those "people" seems to be back this year, trying to win again...

by **sweaner** on Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:24 pm

Lurkerjohnny wrote:It just sucks being a potential customer who happens to be one of those who lives in Hawaii, the 50th state.

Keith, if you get depressed about that just remember, you live in HAWAII!!

by **Spresso_Bean** on Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:41 pm

sweaner wrote:Keith, if you get depressed about that just remember, you live in HAWAII!!

LOL...yeah, I will trade my snowy freezing Chicago life with you for anything in Hawaii, and then you can win haha. I would trade all my stuff for a life in Hawaii, seriously.

by HB on Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:04 pm

Spresso_Bean wrote:I would trade all my stuff for a life in Hawaii, seriously.

I had a co-worker who lived in Hawaii. Her house bordered a wildlife preserve and sometimes we'd hear the angelic song of exotic birds in the background during conference calls. Once she complained about having to get up in the wee hours of the morning to meet with the rest of the US-based team. Our manager responded by offering to move her to the mainland, all expenses paid. There was nothing but silence on the other end of the line and she never complained about our morning meetings again. :lol:

by **bgn** on Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:07 pm

I rarely post but read quite often. Being from Canada the contest is of no interest to me, although many people from Canada do buy from this site's sponsors.

by **Spresso_Bean** on Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:07 pm

It would be nice to see some of the prizes go to those who might not be able to afford a more expensive machine or grinder, someone who might really appreciate it. But anyway, this is a fun contest for sure. You also learn a lot about the sponsors by reading and selecting quotes. I have been thinking of a way that we all might be able to give something in return to Dan and the sponsors...not sure what, but they deserve it.

by HB on Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:52 pm

I'm glad Brad started this thread, it's really pushed me to think about how to "reward" those members who contribute to the site content throughout the year without slighting the newly arrived members. After much thought, I have arrived at what I hope all, including my lawyer friends, will agree is a reasonable compromise.

The original contest rules stated that entrants are allowed to submit an entry every four hours. This rule is unchanged. However, in tribute to the classic song of the season "The Twelve Days of Christmas", members who have contributed to the site content during 2008 will be rewarded with a 12 minute reduction for every month in which they posted. For example, if you posted in December, November and September, your waiting period between entry submissions is four hours minus 36 minutes. Whether you posted 1 time or 50 times in a given month is irrelevant - one post for the month qualifies for the 12 minute reduction. The maximum total reduction is 144 minutes (2 hours and 24 minutes). Don't worry about figuring out the next window of opportunity; if you submit too early, the system will remind you precisely when the waiting period will expire.

* If you note an error in calculations or other programming anomaly, please contact me directly and I will investigate post-haste.

by **Lupulus** on Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:16 pm

Great idea Dan, thanks for working that out. I am sure that everyone will appreciate it!

by **sweaner** on Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:58 pm

Finally, all of my non-intelligent comments will pay off! :lol:

by **networkcrasher** on Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:11 pm

sweaner wrote:Finally, all of my non-intelligent comments will pay off!

I was thinking the same thing! :mrgreen:

by **Lurkerjohnny** on Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:32 pm

sweaner wrote:Keith, if you get depressed about that just remember, you live in HAWAII!!

Haha ok ok! I will stop complaining about living in Hawaii and our high shipping. I forgot that it is winter for you "mainlanders".

Spresso_Bean wrote:LOL...yeah, I will trade my snowy freezing Chicago life with you for anything in Hawaii, and then you can win haha. I would trade all my stuff for a life in Hawaii, seriously.

Spresso Bean, thanks but no thanks. I don't think I would last a whole winter in Chicago!

by **Spresso_Bean** on Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:46 pm

Lurkerjohnny wrote:I don't think I would last a whole winter in Chicago!

Haha, yeah it can be rough. I just get jealous of those that live in Hawaii.

by **Stuggi** on Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:36 am

HB wrote:I'm glad Brad started this thread, it's really pushed me to think about how to "reward" those members who contribute to the site content throughout the year without slighting the newly arrived members. After much thought, I have arrived at what I hope all, including my lawyer friends, will agree is a reasonable compromise.

The original contest rules stated that entrants are allowed to submit an entry every four hours. This rule is unchanged. However, in tribute to the classic song of the season "The Twelve Days of Christmas", members who have contributed to the site content during 2008 will be rewarded with a 12 minute reduction for every month in which they posted. For example, if you posted in December, November and September, your waiting period between entry submissions is four hours minus 36 minutes. Whether you posted 1 time or 50 times in a given month is irrelevant - one post for the month qualifies for the 12 minute reduction. The maximum total reduction is 144 minutes (2 hours and 24 minutes). Don't worry about figuring out the next window of opportunity; if you submit too early, the system will remind you precisely when the waiting period will expire.

* If you note an error in calculations or other programming anomaly, please contact me directly and I will investigate post-haste.

I'm more and more amazed at what you can get the forum system to do, you must be one awesome ninja coder monkey!

by HB on Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:33 am

You may be giving me more credit than I deserve! This morning I received several reports of odd errors when trying to submit an entry. Turns out that the version of the database for my test server and the one for the live forum aren't the same. D'oh. :oops:

If anyone else sees problems with the contest thread, please contact me directly rather than reporting it in the forums. Thanks...

by HB on Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:32 pm

Follow-on discussion split to Holiday Wish List Gifts 2008 - Thanks Sponsors and HB.

by **Stanner** on Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:27 pm

I got some discounted 'spro out of it, so I can't complain. Maybe next year I'll get a wicked grinder. :twisted:


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