The HB Wish List Giveaway Outside the US

by **KnowGood** on Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:06 pm

Maybe we can get the rest of the world included next year and not just the US if it is decided to do "The HB Wish List Giveaway" again. The only action happening lately is this little contest, and it kind of sucks watching from the sidelines.

by **ddr** on Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:02 pm

Is there something specific you wanted to discuss or need help with Lyndon?

by HB on Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:38 pm

KnowGood wrote:Maybe we can get the rest of the world included next year and not just the US...

From the contest FAQs:

Q. The rules state: "[participants] must be at least 18 years old and a U.S. resident of the 48 lower states." Why isn't the contest for all members?

A1. Short answer: Legal issues and the sponsors' concerns about shipping, post-sales service, and promotional value.

A2. Longer answer: Laws regulating contests vary from country-to-country, rendering it fiscally and legally impractical to hold a non-US contest. And while some of the sponsors do regularly ship product overseas (e.g., espressoparts.com, Paradise Roasters), most do not. Although the sponsors are showing good holiday spirit by supplying free product, one purpose of this contest is to promote awareness of their company and increase potential sales. All the sponsors are based in the US, hence the sales potential outside the 48 states is very small.

As an aside, there are other coffee websites outside the US that could host such a contest, if they're willing to do the leg work. For example, CoffeeGeek has a much larger forum than HB and is based in your homeland of Canada. There's also several overseas forums with noteworthy memberships (e.g., Too Much Coffee (UK), Kaffee Netz (Germany), Espresso Bar (Denmark), Riktigt Kaffee (Sweden), Coffee Snobs (Australia), and Ristretto (Finland), espresso (France)).

by **KnowGood** on Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:49 pm

HB wrote:As an aside, there are other coffee websites outside the US that could host such a contest, if they're willing to do the leg work.

Fair enough, it's your site and I "choose" to be here, and am fully aware that if I don't like it I can choose to leave any time. Beggers can't be choosers, right?

by HB on Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:15 pm

I certainly don't think of non-US members as "beggers"; they represent approximately half of the site's visitors and are valued contributors. Unfortunately the law and logistics are what they are... at least until HB Inc. opens offices worldwide. :lol:

by **KnowGood** on Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:50 pm

ddr wrote:Is there something specific you wanted to discuss or need help with Lyndon?

No, not at. I like to drop in every now-and-then to see what is going on with the lever illuminati. With this contest going on, I can see not much. When is it officially over? A specific date, once all prizes are won or which ever comes first?

by HB on Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:00 pm

Also from the contest FAQ:

Q. How long is the Holiday Wish List going to run? Until every prize is won? Until a certain date?

A. Until the Holiday Gifts are gone or December 18th, which ever comes first.

by **IronBarista** on Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:31 am

I'm military overseas but my mailbox is actually in the 48 and I can't participate either.

by HB on Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:17 pm

Sorry, not to put too fine a point on it, but you're in Incirlik, Turkey and the contest specifies US residents (not US citizens). I interpret that as someone who lives in the US. Hint: There's certainly no rule against anyone among your extended friends and family living in the US playing on your behalf. :wink:


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