Orphan Espresso LIDO cupping grinder - Page 9

#81: Post by **hankua** » February 8th, 2012, 9:16 am

This time don't take it apart

#82: Post by **jbviau** » February 8th, 2012, 9:19 am

Pre-order placed first thing this morning! Looking forward to putting the Lido through its paces.

#83: Post by **parkerto** » February 8th, 2012, 9:33 am

orphanespresso wrote:As promised...

https://orphanespresso.3dcartstores.com ... 640-1.html

This is another awesome job! Thank you for the details in this forum and on your web site, the pictures really do your product justice. One quick question please before I buy the LIDO or PHAROS so very soon: you mentioned earlier in this post how the crank handle has two holes to change the style of cranking with the outer hole giving more surface area to the handle allowing for a double handed crank, is that a good summary? Anyway, how would one double hand anything without the grinder being anchored to something? Am I missing something? I know the PHAROS recently had an upgraded included with shipment to anchor the grinder by way of non-slip pad that is applied to the bottom of the PHAROS. Is that also with the LIDO and how anchoring the grinder for two hand pulley action is accomplished. Please advise so I can make a decision. Also, have you finished testing into the espresso and Turkish region to compare grind quality to the PHAROS? I know that you said it is intended to be a different grinder and the TITAN burr is unrivaled, but I am curious as to how it does on the espresso side as well since you already shared your coarse grind findings. Thanks for your help, I am always really impressed with what OE is doing!

#84: Post by **scythide** » February 8th, 2012, 9:51 am

I think you are always using two hands, but when the handle is in "bicycle" mode, you're rotating the grinder around an imaginary axis somewhere between your two hands, whereas when it's in "one-hand" mode, you're holding the grinder stationary with one hand and rotating your other hand around.

#85: Post by **tekomino** » February 8th, 2012, 10:12 am

Pledge made!

#86: Post by **allon** » February 8th, 2012, 12:56 pm

Ordered!
And a tee shirt.
And the Pharos upgrade kit.

February 8th, 2012, 2:20 pm

orphanespresso wrote: ... ran the LIDO on a cordless power drill at slow speed. Dual fuel!!! How sweet it is .

Indeed! I too have been making my coffee prep easier with an electric drill running at slow speed Owner experience with Pharos manual coffee grinder by Orphan Espresso.
I find that the grinds produced with drill are about 10% coarser than with hand cranking at the same setting. Just pointing this out if you are looking for consistency in your grinding tests between drill and hand methods.

February 8th, 2012, 4:52 pm

Thank you all for the kudos and support ...not to mention what may be blind faith. We may be jumping the gun on it but I had to put it out there to, if nothing else clear my mind, as this has pretty much become almost obsessional. I think that there are a lot of us who do see the central kernel of this mystery of coffee and the way things work...the process...the connecting of the dots. Conical burrs, flat burrs, grind speeds, doses, temperatures, extraction ratios, beans, roast levels...the mind reels...and to think it is all centered around the simple enjoyment of a good cup of coffee.

#89: Post by **drgary** » February 8th, 2012, 4:56 pm

orphanespresso wrote:Thank you all for the kudos and support ...not to mention what may be blind faith.

Doug,

It's not blind faith at all given the track record of you and Barb standing behind your products with integrity, even to the point of sending out freebies if you feel the first versions were missing something important. More than that, I don't know if any of us can think of someone who knows hand grinders more than you do, so you're designing and building from knowledge, not just throwing a product out there that's patched together so that you hope it will work and is an easy way to get people to part with their money and put it in your pocket.

Yes, there are those kudos and support again.

February 8th, 2012, 5:46 pm

Thanks Gary....and all. Back to reality...

The LIDO is used much like a Turkish grinder, with two hands and not like a counter mill or knee mill. I prefer the shorter handle and hold the base against my side in a way and just casually turn the crank. Barb likes the longer handle using the bicycle motion. She does all the CAD work. I had to drill and tap all of the holes for the short handle position.