well I have to say it....I think the Kees stuff is SOOOOOOO FUGLY....and I mean FUGLY! Some of the tech stuff in the machine is interesting but when all is said and done, if I were to build a machine that was "techie" I would do pretty much the same HX to some kind of last stage PID controlled heating element, that used a probe just above the basket to control temp and some logic to get it consistent. I guess I would give it an interface with my laptop(phone) so I could tweak the pressure profiles, pre infusion, volume and temp and then I would have something quite decent that could mimic a lever if I wanted to, or mimic any machine out there. If you build it they will come, but I have too many other projects.....
Oh yeah and once it was done I would not put it in a SUPER FUGLY case.

zubinpatrick wrote:well I have to say it....I think the Kees stuff is SOOOOOOO FUGLY....and I mean FUGLY!

I didn't want to say it, but now that you put it out on the table, I couldn't agree more. They need to make modern looking machines with little to no throw back to the 50's.

Right, this kinda things I wanna hear in the beginning, it would help save me money , may be some words toward the president?

or this Gaggia America:
http://www.subito.it/hobby-collezionismo/gaggia-america-reggio-emilia-22525442.htm?last=1