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Postby Possepat on Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:56 pm

I'm no stranger to latte art worthy mircrofoam, heck I even used to make throw down worthy hearts and rosettas with nothing more than my gas stove and Atomic coffee maker.

I recently stepped up to a cremina and am having trouble getting the same results with the four holes (Atomic had two)

1) How many holes are you fine people working with?
2) What's your technique?
3) How much expansion are you getting?
4) Is said microfoam allowing you to make fine latte art or are we just talking a silky drink here?

Loving the shots by themselves though, loads of crema, flavour and usually some nice dark flecking on the crema as well.... bliss.
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Postby samuellaw178 on Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:19 pm

I have a Cremina 83 and I too was having problem getting good result from the 4 holes. I've tried fitting the 2011 steam wand, Espro 12 oz pitcher, Motta 8.5oz picther, gallons of water with dish soap. No help there. At least not true silky microfoam.

1) I am using one hole now. THe result is very encouraging,no visible bubbles and definitely latte art worthy. But then recently I had Crossland CC1 and the microfoam actually feels like liquid, not cream. Maybe that's the silky drink you're looking for. It's a wake up call for me to notch up my microfoam on Cremina.
2) Block all the holes except one. Using as high pressure as you could without burning the coffee.
3) THe expansion doesn't matter that much I think. The recommended expansion is about 33-50% if I remember correctly, but I've managed to expand near 100%(almost double) and actually get creamy microfoam with 1 hole(no visible bubbles). Still it's not as liquidy as the one I got from CC1.
4) I hope they're talking about silky drink. Even 'microfoam' from 4 holes with visible bubbles could pour a decent art, so latte art isn't the best measurement for microfoam :P
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Postby peacecup on Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:04 pm

Depends on the pressurestat setting - at a about 1 bar with my PonteVecchio, at least, a four-hole (or maybe 3-hole?) tip will bring a cappuccino or two's milk up to "Dutch Boy" latex consistency in less than 30 secs.

In fact, I usually inch up the pstat until it just gets to the pressure where it will do a good job steaming, but not too much so the boiler does not run too hot.

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Postby Possepat on Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:30 am

Thanks very much for the speedy replies!
I continued to read other peoples advice/techniques last evening on the interweb and found one that was encouraging. Suggested you don't need any fancy angles or techniques with the four hole cremina.... just use the natural angle of the wand and place the tip in the center of the milk, find the right depth and move with it as it begins to expand... then plunge deeper (1.5" or so below the surface) and finish with a decent toroid/vortex to blend it all together and make it "paint like" and Bob's your uncle.

Well I tried it this morning and ended up with a abstract little rosetta! i'll keep at it and keep you posted!

Pàdraig

P.S. the cremina shots are getting better and better, what a gem of a machine!
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