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Need help making espresso with Cappuccino Amore

Postby TimEggers on Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:25 pm

I've been trying to dial in my new (to me) Cappuccino Amore and am having some problems.

First and foremost I learned the hard way never to remove the boiler cap when the machine is the least bit warm. I did and steam and boiling water literally erupted and covered my kitchen. And me. I'm ok but my forearm is burnt pretty bad (its real sore). I thought the machine was cool enough, nope. I thank God my daughter was down for a nap in her room rather than at my side where she usually is when making coffee.

Now on to the extractions. The machine is complete and fully functional so I don't suspect any fault of the machine. Nope I'm afraid its all me. My technique is this (please critique):

1. Let machine heat up until the light goes out.
2. Grind, dose, WDT then level the basket (double I assume, its large) then tamp with the cheap plastic tamper (its a perfect fit).
3. Lock portafilter and slowly depress handle.
4. I've tried pausing for anywhere from 2-10 seconds then I let the handle go.

Ok what I'm seeing is a quick gush of about 1/2 ounce then a slow drip. I've made one decent shot that was okay tasting. The aroma so far has been exceptional. I just can't seem to get the flow right. The crema is also quite thin and dissipates quickly.

The coffee is Liquid Amber espresso blend that I roasted. The same as I usually do and typically what makes good shots in my Anita, so I don't think the coffee is too far off. At least not enough to explain what I'm seeing on the Amore.

Can anyone offer any tips for the Cappuccino Amore or general spring lever tips for me? I've searched the HB.com FAQ's and Favorites and also google. Not too much luck. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Postby peacecup on Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:24 pm

One way to be sure the pressure is gone from the boiler is to open the steam valve!!! If there's steam don't open the cap!!! Let it all dissipate out the steam valve first. Caution: this does not mean there is no pressure left in the group/portafilter. You need to allow that to dissipate through the puck which usually takes a minute. Also, always remove the PF slowly as a precaution.

Sounds like your grind is too coarse. Grind fine enough to choke the machine (pull the lever down, and the spring will not push it back up). TURN IT OFF AN WAIT UNTIL THE LEVER RISES BY ITSELF (ie the pressure is released). SLOWLY UNLOCK THE PF IN CASE THERE IS ANY PRESSURE REMAINING. Grind a notch or two coarser and you should be in the right flow range.

Alternately you can just keep going a notch or two finer at a time until you get to the right flow without choking.

I had an Amore, but never got a PF for it so I couldn't test it. I don't care for the exposed boiler, especially when kids are around. The Ponte Vecchios have a case to prevent burns.

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Postby Bushrod on Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:35 pm

Sounds like you may need to release false pressure.
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Postby IMAWriter on Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:03 pm

Bushrod wrote:Sounds like you may need to release false pressure.

Same thing to me. Tim, when the light goes out, open the steam valve a second or 2. The boiler light should come on again. Then wait till the boiler light goes out again, and proceed....flush a bit of hot water through the group, as it won't be up to temp yet.
Don't mean to sound like an expert. I got my own issues...technique, most likely. :oops:
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Postby IMAWriter on Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:04 pm

BTW, a nice looking machine.
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Postby TimEggers on Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:41 pm

Thanks everyone for the tips. I didn't think about bleeding off the false pressure, or the heating flush. Actually I avoided the heating flush because I'm afraid of overheating the group. Talk about these levers overheating has maybe made me too protective.

Also about taking off the boiler lid, yes that was my own bone head move. I knew better. I even had the steam wand open full blast. It was a dumb thing to do.

While I haven't had any real success with this machine I'm thoroughly enjoying the process and I'll admit the little machine is really taking a special place in my heart. I've not seen too many complete and functioning Amore's out there, most of the ones I've seen are being sold as parts. I'm very excited I'd like to retire the Amore while still functioning as a collectible but really she seems more than ready to be a daily driver for a while.

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Judging by the insides of the portafilter I don't think she's seen too much use. (I can change that)

Also a side note, what is the port on the back of the brew cylinder for? It spews water with every pull, can I safely plug this hole? Right now I lay a dishrag over the back of the brew head to catch the water spray.

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Many thanks again guys, I'm having a blast with the little lever that could (wish I can). :wink:

Here is a video of what I'm seeing. In the video you'll notice a gush of water when I depress the lever that's from the top of the lever chamber (this only happens once in a great while when I pull the lever too fast). Basically the gush as you'll see comes right as soon as I let go if the lever. Then it drips but the lever doesn't go back up at all. I did turn the machine off and walk away after about an hour all was well. When I let go of the portafilter is when I let go of the lever.

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Postby TimEggers on Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:42 am

IMAWriter wrote:BTW, a nice looking machine.


Thanks Rob I have big plans for her. In fact I just finished the portafilter...

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I really hope the rest of the machine comes out as nicely!
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Postby peacecup on Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:15 am

Yes, release the false pressure. This is probably not the problem with the fast pours though.

If the port in the back is leaking water you may have a bad piston seal. The port is designed to let air escape when the lever is depressed and water enters the group. A seal on top of the piston is supposed to keep water from going there. If that is the only bad seal you might be ok for brew pressure. If the bottom seal is bad that could explain why your getting bad pours, although this seems unlikely since you're getting enough pressure to have fast pours. If you search around you should be able to find a photo of the piston on HB.

Sourcing seals for the CA pistons may be difficult, but should be possible. I've read that they have aluminum pistons, so it might be worth having a look inside the group someday anyway.
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Postby orphanespresso on Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:59 am

Nice video. One of these day's we'll figure out how to post video.....do you give a tutorial?

Anyway, I agree with Peacecup on the seal issue. the Amore has 3 seals on the piston. The first (from the top) and the second contain the water aginst boiler pressure and the third (bottom) pushes out the water through the puck. We have been working with measurements sent to us from a desperate CA owner and finally got one on ebay and when it arrives we can do some hands on work and get some seals out there. As a preliminary caution, from the measurements it doesn't look promising from the sources we've checked, but we have yet to be stymied on coming up with some system of seals for an orphan machine.

Keep enjoying it. Looks good
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Postby HB on Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:49 am

orphanespresso wrote:Nice video. One of these day's we'll figure out how to post video.....do you give a tutorial?

Not much to it. Upload to Google video or youtube. Paste the URL, surrounded by the appropriate tags. For example:

[gvideo]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3927132357068137357[/gvideo]


See Posting videos on HB for more details.
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