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Postby grong on Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:01 pm

How much delicious espresso per pull? Please represent your machine!

Ponte Vecchio Lusso
1 pull--1/2 ounce, 15ml
2 pulls--1 ounce, 30ml
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Postby timo888 on Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:22 pm

grong wrote:How much delicious espresso per pull? Please represent your machine!

Ponte Vecchio Lusso
1 pull--1/2 ounce, 15ml
2 pulls--1 ounce, 30ml


Thanks for this thread. Richard (espressme) refuses to believe me when I tell him that I drink my espresso from a thimble.

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Postby peacecup on Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:46 pm

This is a good idea. I'll second grong's volumes, adding 0.5 oz. per pull up to four, for the PV Export. I'll qualify by saying volume in the cup can vary somewhat depending on GDT (grind, dose, tamp).

I think you need to add a dry weight of coffee column to the table, so we can figure dose pe unit vol, and important component of taste.

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Postby peacecup on Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:10 pm

BTW, the last few shots I've pulled have been "leaners": ground fine enough choke the PV spring, and requiring me to put my body weight over the machine and lean down on the piston to get a decent flow rate. This, of course, increases the pressure. I have to say these shots have been VERY tasty and crema-laden.

If I had a couple of grand and a lot of counter space I might opt for a spring-lever Conti with its coupled lever mechanism.


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Postby grong on Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:43 pm

timo 888 writes
I tell him that I drink my espresso from a thimble.


Is that one pull or two to fill your thimble?


Quoting peacecup
I think you need to add a dry weight of coffee column to the table...


Okay!

Coffee dry weight for PV Lusso (Macap grinder)
delicious single basket: 8g
delicious double basket: 14g
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Postby timo888 on Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:31 pm

Peppina

a) depress the lever and allow it to rise immediately: ~45mL
b) depress the lever, count to 20, then allow it to rise: ~50mL

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P.S. This is gross volume of water from the shot with no coffee in the basket.
P.P.S. Not using original one-way washers in the piston cylinder and group but thin (1/16" and 1/32" respectively) very flexible nylon-reinforced EPDM washers, doubled up.
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Postby timo888 on Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:32 pm

Do we have pics of the PV single and double baskets?
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Postby grong on Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:30 pm

PV baskets, next to an espresso cup for reference.

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Thanks for the details on Peppina, timo888!
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Postby espressme on Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:40 pm

timo888 wrote:Peppina
a) depress the lever and allow it to rise immediately: ~45mL
b) depress the lever, count to 20, then allow it to rise: ~50mL
Regards
Timo
P.S. This is gross volume of water from the shot with no coffee in the basket.
P.P.S. Not using original one-way washers in the piston cylinder and group but thin (1/16" and 1/32" respectively) very flexible nylon-reinforced EPDM washers, doubled up.

45ml - 1.5oz.....BIG thimble! :twisted: How much with 12gr coffee in double basket? :?:
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Postby grong on Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:57 pm

espressme asks timo888:
How much with 12gr coffee in double basket?

Yes, we must know how much actual delicious espresso is produced per piston stroke.


espressme,

Perhaps you could represent Cremina with a report on Cleo? I for one would value this information.


Elektra?


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