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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Chert on Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:52 pm

I don't think this forum has a thread devoted to this modern, commercial and, I suspect, most excellent lever espresso machine. Let me start the thread to fill this void. Sadly, I have no first hand experience of it. Do any of you?
KvdW Mirage Idrocompresso

The text on the link also conveys good information about lever groups.

Someone in the LMWDP needs one of these don't you think? (I'm off to search that thread)

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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Nik on Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:38 pm

Stop it! :D

I just got my La Marzocco! I can't afford to change. You ruined my day! :)
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by zin1953 on Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:44 pm

Ahhhhhh . . . my dream machine.
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Psyd on Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:54 pm

OK, here's a test. I wanna see if HB'ers can make a dream come true. If everyone were to donate a single five or ten dollars to a central PayPal account, I would be able to buy one of these by my Birthday. Go now, just make a five or ten dollar (more, if you're well off) and let's see if we can band together to get this done by April 26th!

Go Team HB!


'Kay, it was worth a shot...
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Nik on Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:22 pm

Count me in Chris....I will double your request to $10 if you let me come to Tucson for a demo and a shot!
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Psyd on Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:39 pm

Nik wrote:Count me in Chris....I will double your request to $10 if you let me come to Tucson for a demo and a shot!


I'll let you touch it for another ten bucks, mister... ; >
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Bluecold on Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:19 pm

The groups have changed.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49th/sets/...228193889/

Another beautiful work of art for 49th parallel.
I'd like to know how the LaMarz compares to the Kees.
Too bad 49th parallel doesn't have a blog. Their main site is all about beans instead of important news about shiny lever machines.
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Dogshot on Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:03 am

The Idro is a really special machine - I would love to have have one!

What I like so much about it is not only its beauty, but its simplicity. This is a machine that a home user could have and maintain for years and years. No teflon tubes, noisy failure-prone pumps, minimal electronics, etc.

If Kees can't be convinced to produce a 1-group Idro within the next 5-6 years, I will have to cave in and get a Speedster. That's another machine that is as beautiful on the inside as it is on the outside.

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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by uscfroadie on Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:50 am

Bluecold wrote:The groups have changed.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49th/sets/...228193889/

Another beautiful work of art for 49th parallel.
I'd like to know how the LaMarz compares to the Kees.
Too bad 49th parallel doesn't have a blog. Their main site is all about beans instead of important news about shiny lever machines.


The 49th Parallel La Marzocco lever is my favorite, though I wish Kees would produce a single group Idro about the size of a Speedster. I would think there would be a good market for this...perhaps I'm wrong.
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by ademello72 on Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:07 pm

I maybe be wrong here, but If you ask nicely, he might be able to make you a single group lever anything http://www.keesvanderwesten.com/earlier-work-il-brutto.html :D

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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by wildbwilson on Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:06 pm

There may be something in the works. I saw a pic of a single group Speedster lever that they are working on. I emailed Kees about it and he replied that if they get the temp stability and dynamics sorted out it may be in the works for later this year. I'm saving my pennies just in case. In the meantime lucky me that I live close to 49th and hope to see their lever in action either in the cafe or at the roaster.
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Chert on Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:38 pm

This is most excellent news:
I emailed Kees about it and he replied that if they get the temp stability and dynamics sorted out it may be in the works for later this year.

Meantime, I will go visit BC with the family. We've been meaning to do it and I already know that 49th does a fine job from experience at the Trabant Cafe in the U district, Seattle.
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Looping on Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:55 am

This vintage La Marzocco lever is just gorgeous! Thank you for the picture gallery.
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by fac10 on Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:05 pm

Another place to check out the Idrocompresso is at Blue Bottle in San Francisco. They have a three group model at their Ferry Building location. I was visiting the Bay Area in December and had a wonderful shot pulled from that machine.
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by KnowGood on Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:34 pm

They say if you have to ask then you can't afford it, but I need to know the price on either of those bad boys shown!
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by uscfroadie on Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:03 pm

wildbwilson wrote:I saw a pic of a single group Speedster lever that they are working on.


Do you have the link to this photo? Or can you post the photo itself?

KnowGood wrote:They say if you have to ask then you can't afford it, but I need to know the price on either of those bad boys shown!


KnowGood, guessing here in the Mirage, but I'd say it'd be just shy of the cost of a Mistral, so about $20,000. The Speedster is 4,975 Euro, so you'll have to convert using the latest exchange rate and add for shipping and applicable customs fees. Figure about $8,000. As for the La Marzocco...I'd guess that if one like it were for sale it'd be $50,000 - totally a WAG based off a 1953 3-group lever that was on eBay a year ago that needed a serious restoration and was not as attractive a model yet still had bidding go up over $22,000 and did not meet the reserve.

Hope this is what you were asking.
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Dogshot on Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:19 pm

I'd been looking at these photos for a couple of weeks, but did not know what to think. It would be a dream come true if this was really from Kees' shop:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lapotenza/4285262805/


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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Bluecold on Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:45 pm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lapotenza/4305775219/

Looks to be the real deal.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lapotenza/...otostream/
Check the PID. Do i imagine it saying 96.5?
That would mean Kees is up to something.
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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by Dogshot on Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:28 pm

What I'd like to understand is what role the pump/preinfusion activation lever plays in this machine?

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Link to "Kees van der Westen Mirage Idrocompresso"by yellow_speedster on Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:59 pm

Being a prototype, it is just there to fill the holes in the front.
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