Hello lever experts,

Based on the group type and shape of the machine, do you have any idea what this monster might be?



Thanks!

can't quite tell for sure. old rossi gr. maybe bezzera knobs but they are hard to see. lever plastic looks CMA to me.

I'll go with an old bezzera as a guess. maybe late 70s - 80s.

I just want to know if you bought it, and if not, can I?

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paul,spanish gaggia as same group and same bakelit..
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Steam and water wands design through the back plate also indicate Spanish Gaggia....Italcrem or Visacrem.

Thanks for the replies! I didn't get it (yet?), but if it's still available when I'm passing through that area (somewhat far for me) then I might... does anyone know if parts are somewhat available for something like this, and is it possible to adapt gas?

One more question - does anyone know what this is:



It's listed as a Gaggia, and the groups look similar to the Gaggia Orione machines that are floating around this forum. Does that dome actually do anything? Anyone know about parts availability for this one?

Thanks!

EDIT: Sounds like it's similar to this, a Gaggia Orione group with a modified body.

Yep, its an Orione, i'm restoring a very similar machine at the moment.Most parts are still available, the groups are a bit more tricky to rebuild compared to the rossi group shown in first post.

aindfan wrote:Thanks for the replies! I didn't get it (yet?), but if it's still available when I'm passing through that area (somewhat far for me) then I might... does anyone know if parts are somewhat available for something like this, and is it possible to adapt gas?

Should be able to convert no problem

aindfan wrote:It's listed as a Gaggia, and the groups look similar to the Gaggia Orione machines that are floating around this forum. Does that dome actually do anything? Anyone know about parts availability for this one?

Dome is ornamental, part of the rebody work done by ABC, a company in California.They still rebuild groups if needed, and may supply other parts

Thanks for the reply! The Gaggia owner and I could not agree on a price (as the asking price was close to what the machine is worth, and I'm aiming for a price of "needs too much work"). So now I'll be deciding whether the OP three (Rossi) group is worth a drive (if it's still available).

aindfan wrote:Thanks for the replies! I didn't get it (yet?), but if it's still available when I'm passing through that area (somewhat far for me) then I might... does anyone know if parts are somewhat available for something like this, and is it possible to adapt gas?

One more question - does anyone know what this is:

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It's listed as a Gaggia, and the groups look similar to the Gaggia Orione machines that are floating around this forum. Does that dome actually do anything? Anyone know about parts availability for this one?

Thanks!

EDIT: Sounds like it's similar to this, a Gaggia Orione group with a modified body.

Ah! Yep, found this one on craigslist at least - $1500?!? No thanks. Do let us know how the 3-group turns out.

-phillip

Thanks Phillip. To confirm everyone's posts, it looks like the machine in the first post looks closest to Bill's Futurmat Palanca in this post.