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How to adjust pressurestat of newer La Pavoni Europiccola

Postby MattJ on Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:17 am

Does anyone know if the pressurestat in the newer La Pavoni Europiccola with one orange switch (power) on top and the green light underneath adjustable?

Just curious before I take the machine apart. Thanks in advance!
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Postby Heckie on Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:31 pm

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Postby MattJ on Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:20 pm

thanks Heckie!

and to everyone else who has lended a metaphorical hand

it's funny when I google issues with this machine our past threads often come up in the search

I've learned a lot going back and reading my first posts almost five years ago when I bought this machine.

It seems that everyone is in agreement that having a set pressure stat was a bad idea in these machines. Curious if anyone knows the answer off the top of their head if atmospheric pressure would have enough of an effect on boiling point to warrant a change in a pressure stat? If all these machines are set in Milan at 336 ft. would trying to use it say at my former residence near Breckenridge, Colorado at slightly more than 11K ft. require a change in the pressure stat setting?

Well, it looks like a dangerous mission breaking the glue on this pressure stat, but I'm pretty convinced that my machine just doesn't get hot enough. I now regret not forking over the extra cash at the time and buying the Pro model as it will be a lot more trial and error w/out the pressure gauge.
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Postby MattJ on Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:22 pm

so some of you chrome peacock lovers are going to like this...

as I mentioned above I have been reading through a lot of old posts because I've never been really satisfied with this machine. From day one I took some rude temp measurements and didn't feel like the water temp was high enough. I called and talked to the European Gifts and Houseware who I bought the machine from but their tech said the pressure stat was not adjustable and so I was going to have to deal with it or send it back. I elected to go at it myself which several times I have regretted. Flash forward five plus years. Today I mustered up a pressure gauge modification feeling it was absolutely necessary to troubleshoot the machine. I will admit that I did some soul searching in the process and am a little embarrassed to say I avoided messing with my EP too much because I really like the aesthetics of it unmodified. I will detail the pressure gauge modification if anyone is interested at a later date, but the reader's digest is that the sight tube cap on my EP is the same size and thread pitch of a 1/4" / 6 mm. compression connector, so the only real work around we figured with what was on hand at my local hardware was that connector with a 1/8" to 1/4" hex bushing to take it back to a 1/4" male pipe and then a coupler to connect it to the 1/4" pipe male end of the pressure gauge. Also purchased some good steam rated pipe thread goo and a set of tamper proof star hex keys for the base bolt.

Now, the pressure gauge is attached and seems to be working well. The pressure stat kicks the heating element on at .5 bar / 7.25 psi and kicks it off at .65 bar / 9.5 psi. I've been watching it cycle for a while and it's now pretty consistent. After I released the false pressure it ran up to nearly a bar once, but I haven't seen it do that again.

Guess it's time to fiddle with the pressure stat and maybe to invest in a adjustable one if I break it. Another big thanks to everyone who has helped me out on the path to fixing this thing!

edit: I pulled the base off and disconnected the pressure stat. I picked at the glue and was able to free the plastic ring w/out breaking it (luckily ;) ) - it seems that the tighter down you screw it onto the prongs the higher the setting goes. I'm up to .6 bar it cycles on and .7 bar off.

edit x2: it looks like cycling on at .75 bar and off at .85 bar is as tight as I'm going to get the pressure stat. we'll see how the coffee tastes in the morning.
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Postby MattJ on Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:34 pm

is this correct...

http://www.thecoffeebump.com/la-pavoni-...hrome.html

that the pressure stat should come on at .7 bar and off and 1.0 bar?

thanks!
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Postby RickB on Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:45 am

0.3 Bar translates in a 5 deg. variation in temp (if my info is correct). Seems like a lot. I suppose the ad refers to average settings, not the bandwidth of the pstat.
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Postby stefano65 on Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:19 am

on a lever pavoni I will not go any higher the .9
some customers are happy with .7
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Postby MattJ on Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:49 pm

thanks for those replies

Interestingly the bandwith of this pressurestat was wider at lower temp giving a .2 bar swing and now is .1 that it's hotter. I might even crank mine down a little now that I've experimented with it. The beans I'm using right now aren't the best so it's tough to say. I would say the shot I pulled this morning was very indicative of the bean and had a lot more sophisticated flavor than previous shots with this machine.

I plan to roast some beans next week and give them a shot so I'll have a better idea.
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