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Technique seems good, now to the coffee... or not.

Postby pavman on Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:39 pm

Here's a thread that's been percolating for some time (sorry):

I wasn't sure whether to post this here, or under "Coffee" or "Levers" or "Grinders", etc. To me, this post is sort of all-encompassing, touching on many things I've pondered and posted about before. It's sort of a status update of my espresso experience. I hope it's helpful to others, even if our set-ups are different.

It may also come down to, "Am I using the 'right' coffee?" (Ecco's espresso blend).

First, a little background:

After years of honing my technique on my millennium-era pavoni euro, I feel I'm operating well. Thanks in large part to this site, as well as others, and to constant practice and adjustment, I have discovered that the machine has greater capability than I realized when I began. Just as one minor example, when I started, most of what I read -- and my experience confirmed -- said that a "1 pull double" was pretty much impossible with this machine, that to get 1.5-2oz, you had to raise and lower the lever at least twice. I have found that with the right dose and grind, you can, in fact, get a "traditional double" from one pull. Repeatability is ever-elusive with this machine, but my shots, usually in the 1.5oz area, look and taste good, especially in capps.

I finally bit the bullet a few months ago and upgraded to the Vario from a Gaggia MDF. Really does make a world of difference. Thanks again to all who encouraged and supported my decision. :)

My problem is that my capps are great and elicit oohs and aahs from friends. But my straight shots still often have a little bit of bitterness at the end of the sip. I know there are those who feel that that's one of the characteristic tastes of espresso. I also know that the 3rd wave and hobbyists have shown that that is not a given.

Obviously, to each, his/her own. I don't mind some acidity, but I also enjoy drinking a shot that's strong, yet smooth. You know how when you brew a really good cup, whether it's pourover, press, drip, etc., it can be strong, but not bitter at all? I find this rarely happens with my espresso shots.

I can't post pics, but my extractions generally look really good, not over, not under, no blonding...

I don't have a bottomless pf. Maybe Ecco isn't suited for this machine, though I don't think that's the case.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated. The better I get, the more frustrated I become! But I know that's another subject. :? Thanks.
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Postby Marc on Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:19 pm

Hard to say but did you try lowering the temperature. You should have a nice acidity and sweeter balance, no bitterness.
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