TDS: what S?

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#1: Post by endlesscycles »

Okay, so it seems commonly agreed upon that you want 150ppm TDS to brew.
Apparently the Cirqua "Formula" is calcium floride, potasium bicarbonate, and sodium bicarbonate.
I imagine there are other solids that would have a different affect on the brew.
Has anyone messed around with the brew of the brew water itself?
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#2: Post by another_jim »

It's a great question.

Traditionally, water for coffee was defined in terms of hardness -- calcium, magnesium, and bicarbonates -- with an absolute minimum of anything else. The ideal was neutral hardness, about 90 mg/L equivalent of calcium and 50 mg/L of carbonates.

Nowadays it is far easier to test for TDS than for hardness, so there is a good technical reason to switch over. You can check water TDS with a ten dollar meter in a few seconds. Titrating, on the other hand is hard, time consuming and expensive; while test strips are not very accurate. In old neutral hardness standard translates to somewhere between 100 and 150 TDS, depending on the exact water composition.

Water softeners replace each calcium ion with two sodium. This leaves TDS readings unchanged, but makes the water non-scaling. In terms of taste, softened hard water is no worse than the unsoftened hard water, and it is better than overly purified RO water. If you install an RO unit and bypass some of the water, you need to get the hardness and TDS down to below 50 to prevent scaling. This will also taste acceptable.

Cirqua sells a system that uses RO water, bypass, and the addition of non-scaling chemicals, to get water up to 150 TDS without scaling problems. This will taste better than then the two previous softening alternatives.

They claim their proprietary non-scaling mix will taste as good as natural, neutral water; which is your question -- are all 150 TDS waters, or at least those designed by experts, born equal?

The claim has not been tested independently. I have checked out their home version. It's close enough so that it would take a lot more testing than I'm willing to do to really tell if it's the same or slightly different (their recipe cups a little different from Chicago water with the same brew parameters, but converges if you tweak the parameters -- this makes testing horribly hard). Since the difference between perfect water and conventional treatments is more obvious, their claims are close enough to truth to make their approach preferable.

I would like to point out that the taste differences between their treatment and the traditional competent water treatments (ion exchange, or RO with bypass) is smaller than their literature makes out. This make me hesitant to endorse their product more resoundingly.
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Marshall
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#3: Post by Marshall »

endlesscycles wrote:Has anyone messed around with the brew of the brew water itself?
Yes, and there is scientific literature on it. E.g.:
  • Rangborn, et al., "Analysis of Coffee, Tea, and Artifically Flavored Drinks Prepared from Mineralized Waters," Journal of Food Science (Volume 36, 1971)

    Rivetti, et al, "Effect of Wwater Composiiton and Water Treatment on Espresso Coffee Percolation," (Proceedings of the Colloquiem of the Association Scientifique du Cafe, Paris, 2001)
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#4: Post by farmroast »

It would be interesting to have formulated additives espresso water.
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#5: Post by Marshall replying to farmroast »

I know some of the better coffee bars use different formulas (and run separate lines) for espresso and drip.
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