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Postby jesawdy on Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:55 pm

DaveC wrote:Mincemeat...really, you don't have it in the US, so what do you put in mince pies, I am sure I have had mince pies when I have visited the US?


You can get it.... it just isn't a common thing anymore. I never understood why they call it mincemeat anyway, so from Wikipedia:
Mincemeat was originally a conglomeration of bits of meat, dried fruit and spices, created as an alternative to smoking or drying for preservation, a variant form of sausage. It should not be confused with minced meat. Mincemeat containing actual meat has become less common over the years. The customary form today typically consists of raisins, spices, grated apple, and animal suet, though many commercial varieties use hard vegetable fat instead, making it completely vegetarian. Mincemeat may also contain currants, candied fruits, and brandy, rum or other liquor.
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The mince in mincemeat traces its roots back to the Latin minutia ("something small"). The word mincemeat is an adaptation of an earlier term minced meat, simply meaning that, "meat chopped into small pieces". As an ingredient or substance, however, mincemeat has almost always been one word.

The term mincemeat has become a common image, even perhaps a cliche. To make mincemeat out of one's adversary is to impose defeat in an especially complete and humiliating manner
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Postby cannonfodder on Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:29 pm

This is getting way OT, but to answer you question we don't have mince pies. In the states, a pie is usually just fruit, cherry, apple, berry, pumpkin, etc. The closest thing would be a Pot-Pie. Meat and vegetables (potato, pea, and carrot) and light gravy baked in a pie tin or pot with a top and bottom crust like your mince meet, but no fruit. It is strictly a savory dish, not sweet. If you gave someone in the states a 'pie' with meet in it thy would think you were crazy. Personally, I am a meet, potato and Guinness guy.

Back to the jar. As long as you crack the seal once a day I do not see (or taste) any significant change vs. a valve bag. My home roasts never last more than 5 days anyway so getting stale is not a problem. I use which ever item is handy at the time, or size compatible. I can not put a full pound in a Mason jar, half to ¾ fits. Over that it goes in a pound valve bag.
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Postby DaveC on Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:22 am

cannonfodder wrote:This is getting way OT, but to answer you question we don't have mince pies. In the states, a pie is usually just fruit, cherry, apple, berry, pumpkin, etc. The closest thing would be a Pot-Pie. Meat and vegetables (potato, pea, and carrot) and light gravy baked in a pie tin or pot with a top and bottom crust like your mince meet, but no fruit. It is strictly a savory dish, not sweet. If you gave someone in the states a 'pie' with meet in it thy would think you were crazy. Personally, I am a meet, potato and Guinness guy.


No no no.....mince meat doesn't have meat in it :lol: In the middle ages it used to and was a sweetened form of meat, but not for hundreds of years.

I think it's simply dried fruit, sugar ground nuts, dried peel and spices such a cloves, nutmeg and cinnamon....not meat!

You don't know what your missing 8)
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Postby cannonfodder on Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:57 pm

I guess my definition and understanding is a few hundred years old and a continent away.
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Postby scook94 on Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:26 pm

DaveC wrote:You don't know what your missing 8)


I'll second that...
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