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#21: Post by jwill911 (original poster) »

Finally something to report:

Today was very productive. I picked my cabinet from the cabinet maker, my contractor came by and completed the cabinet install, moved an outlet that would have otherwise been covered my the cabinet, ran the circuit for the espresso machine, finished the hot and cold water supply and drain.

Tomorrow UPS says the sink will be delivered, once I cut the hole for the sink the granite fabricator will come by to measure and make the template. After the granite is set my contractor will come back do the tile backsplash. The only problem is the faucet I ordered is on back order so that may delay completion. But progress is being made.

Here's a picture I took this afternoon:



Still a work in progress.

jw

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#22: Post by mitch236 »

I wonder why you put the electrical box centrally? If you put the sink centrally that makes using the outlet messy looking. If you place the sink to one side, then I assume your grinder will go in front of the plug and it will be sitting next to the sink (not necessarily the best place).

I have a centrally mounted outlet but I don't use it anymore. I added one to the left which looks better for the grinder although if I were doing it again, I would have placed the outlet directly behind the grinder.

This is an older picture. I no longer use the outlet behind the sink.


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#23: Post by mitch236 »

Also, I just noticed you have a thermostat at your bar area. Be careful not to put your espresso machine there as the heat will cause room temperature errors with your HVAC.

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#24: Post by jwill911 (original poster) »

The sink will be on the right the espresso machine in the middle and obscuring the outlet and the grinder on the left.

Sort of like this but the cabinet maker used stock stencil my machine is not a meile.


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#25: Post by mitch236 »

I assume the machine in the drawing is where your grinder will be. How are you going to run your drain pipe? There appears to be drawers below where your machine will go.

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#26: Post by jwill911 (original poster) »

Initial plan was to run the water supply and drain through the wall but changed to drilling a 1 1/2" hole in the granite behind the espresso machine for both and run them down behind the drawer and to the right into / through the cabinet wall to supply and drain. Water filtration will also be contained in the right cabinet under the sink. I'll post progress as it's made. Been researching the filtration and suspect I'll go the Chris' Coffee route or similar components sourced locally. Water softening is not necessary.

jw

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#27: Post by mitch236 »

Here's what I found. I'm not trying to sound negative, it's just that might as well get it all sorted out while construction is still underway.

The drain should always go downhill. You don't want any sections where the hose is horizontal because that is where sediment will tend to accumulate and then your drain will slow. On my machine, the drain exits under the drain pan so the hose exits from the near underside of the machine. If the hose run had to make it all the way to the rear of the counter, there would be a long section of horizontal hose. Maybe there is enough room for you to drop the hose under the machine but still above the first drawer and then continue on to the sink drain?

Sort of this:

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#28: Post by mitch236 »

That's how I had to get around my refrigerator in my bar.

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#29: Post by CrayonShinchan »

This is cool, I'm looking forward to the finished espresso bar!

My wife and I are in the early stages of a kitchen remodel and while I won't have an espresso bar, I will definitely have an espresso shrine, which will include dedicated outlets, plumbing, and maybe drainage (but will probably end up with a bucket for that). I like the idea of drilling through the wall rather than the granite and will probably pursue that method.

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#30: Post by jwill911 (original poster) »

mitch236 wrote:Here's what I found. I'm not trying to sound negative, it's just that might as well get it all sorted out while construction is still underway.

The drain should always go downhill. You don't want any sections where the hose is horizontal because that is where sediment will tend to accumulate and then your drain will slow. On my machine, the drain exits under the drain pan so the hose exits from the near underside of the machine. If the hose run had to make it all the way to the rear of the counter, there would be a long section of horizontal hose. Maybe there is enough room for you to drop the hose under the machine but still above the first drawer and then continue on to the sink drain?

Sort of this:
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I'll take that under consideration. Good point.

Thanks,
jw