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Crema enhancer for Rancilio Silvia

Postby barista on Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:50 pm

I have a silvia by Rancilio and was wondering if anyone knew where I could purchase a crema enhancing filter for this machine, you know the ones with the one tiny hole in the filter basket. The reason I need one is simple .... my wife wants to make americano style coffee with just one switch. She could do that with our cuisinart machine. Thanks in advance ....
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Postby sweaner on Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:21 pm

Why would you want that? We usually talk about getting rid of those things.
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Postby Randy G. on Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:43 pm

That is an odd request. If you mean by "one switch' that she wants to pull an Americano right into the cup... Uchhh. But two possible solutions:
1 - take the time to teach her how to use a regular portafilter basket. Really not a lot more involved in that.
2 - get an Aerobie Aeropress.
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Postby Beezer on Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:10 pm

It goes against my better judgment to say this, but maybe you need to get a pod kit for your Silvia. The newer Silvias made in the last couple of years are pod compatible. Then she doesn't have to deal with grinding, distributing, tamping, etc. Just throw in a pod and brew your shot. Add hot water, and bingo, instant Americano. It won't be as thick and flavorful as a freshly ground shot, but it should be drinkable.
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Postby barista on Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:22 pm

I know I can teach anyone to use miss silvia, but with a pressurized filter..... one hole 58mm instead of eighty holes 58mm my wife can load and pour and voila there is and eight oz cup of coffee with loads of crema on top. So can any one help me with my quest to find a crema enhanced pressurized 58mm filter for my miss silvia. Thank you so much in advance for your help. I know with this filter I can keep everyone happy in the house, as things are now the grumbler's say the miss silvia is to much work for a cup of java!!!!
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Postby Dink0617 on Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:54 pm

I would have to agree with teaching her how to use the Silvia. I can't imagine how 8oz. pulled through a pressurized basket would taste? Pretty nasty I would think, I pretty much drink amercanos and I pour the shot into a mug of hot water. If you are set on getting something check out partsguru.com, they sell a crema enhancing disc for a Gaggia, might work on a Silvia portafilter.

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Postby shadowfax on Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:23 pm

Seems like getting the grumblers a drip pot (ooh, one button?) or french press might be smarter. You can make a LOT more mediocre coffee that way. I don't know if it's been clarified yet, but I did want to make sure you know that pulling 8 oz. of water through a double shot's worth of coffee is not going to produce a rich anything, no matter if it goes through 1 hole or 800. The coffee extracts optimally with ~1-2 oz. at 9 bars of pressure. What this means is that, if you continue to pull water through after ~2 oz., you get over-extracted coffee. It's so bitter and awful that your worst espresso shot (I hope) doesn't even compare to it. If you think that a crema enhancer is going to help this at all, I can tell you right now that it will just be lipstick on a pig, to quote a presidential candidate (or both).

What's the trouble with pouring 6 oz. of hot water from the tap into your mug and microwaving it for 30-60s while you prep the shot? It's not hard, it's not any more trouble, and it will yield a drinkable cup of coffee. Crema enhancer schmema enhancer. You're not going to get a decent cup of coffee drawing 8 oz. of water through 2 scoops of coffee grounds on Silvia no matter what you do.

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Postby zin1953 on Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:35 pm

Eight ounces? (Ugh!) Why not use a press pot? No, seriously. Why not spend a few bucks and get a 3-cup press pot?
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Postby sweaner on Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:41 pm

Dink0617 wrote:I would have to agree with teaching her how to use the Silvia. I can't imagine how 8oz. pulled through a pressurized basket would taste? Pretty nasty I would think, I pretty much drink amercanos and I pour the shot into a mug of hot water. If you are set on getting something check out partsguru.com, they sell a crema enhancing disc for a Gaggia, might work on a Silvia portafilter.


So you are making a "crema coffee." I have actually done this type of thing with a cheap pump espresso machine and...of all things....coffee pods. It actually worked quite well. Not over extracted.
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Postby another_jim on Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:51 pm

A "one step Americano" is called a Cafe Crema nowadays, a very common drink in Europe. You grind much coarser than usual (4 clicks coarser on the Rocky, at least), and run a cup worth of brew through the PF in the usual 25 to 30 seconds. This works perfectly well with a regular basket. Done right, this is a slightly tastier than an Americano
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