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Accumulating small improvements in Idaho

Postby another_jim on Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:20 pm

Everyone loves the big dramatic change. But home espresso more often is like saving for retirement -- adding a little bit every day works a lot better than waiting for the lottery win (or a GS3). A problem is that individually, each little improvements is too small to taste on its own. You need faith that improvements do in fact accumulate, rather than being ridiculous circles where this year's merely undo last year's.

One way of reassuring yourself is to invite me over every few years ;-) I haven't visited Ken Fox for about a year and a half. When I tasted the first few shots, I was amazed at how much the espresso had improved. His shots had been good a few years back, but now they were top class, as good as I was getting anywhere.

Ken has made quite a few changes since then. Like everyone else, he's taking advantage of the better greens now available. He's changed his roasting profiles to bring out the best from them. He's changed over to higher end grinders. He's tweaked the temperature management on his PIDed machines. And he's changed dose.

We didn't do any formal testing, but we did a few sets of blind shots. The biggest two differences is going to better coffee and better roasting profiles. This resulted in shot differences that were large enough to be clear on every single shot to both of us. Trust me, everyone who's ever done blind testing knows this means the difference is very large.

The difference made by better temperature management, changing dose, and grinders are more subtle. The shots clearly taste different. To Ken, who is accustomed to the coffees, his current dose, grinders, etc seem right, while to me they mostly seemed different but not better.

To some extent, it's an accumulation of small improvements. But if I had to give weights to everything, I'd say the coffee and the roast are the big things, while the mano, maccina, and machina changes are, to a large extent, about best accomodating the improved coffees.

And talking about improved coffees ... Here's a video of us taking on a three year old frozen decaf that Ken dug out of his freezer ...

[gvideo]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=338749232582330376[/gvideo]
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Postby cannonfodder on Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:33 pm

LOL, 3 year old decaf. If you ground up the burlap bad the coffee was shipped in, it would have tasted better.
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Postby RegulatorJohnson on Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:55 pm

i bet it would have tasted better if you used the spouts... :D :D

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Postby Ken Fox on Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:14 am

Jim's visit, like all the prior ones, was a most welcome respite from the day to day mundaneness of my life :P

One thing that Jim didn't really comment upon was the fact that there were essentially no sink shots made during his visit here, something I attribute to using ~14g doses as opposed to the larger doses I used to use. Since he is doing more or less the same thing chez lui, he probably considers this normal.

The 3 year old jar of frozen decaf blend was something I discovered while rearranging the contents of my freezers. When one has chest freezers, even moreso if one has more than one, it is necessary to "rotate one's stock" or you risk finding things like .. . . . . . 3 year old jars of frozen decaf. My first inclination was to toss it straight in the trash but I decided later that it might have "historical" interest. Although Jim and I used to roast and drink decaf, those days are long gone. This particular jar was probably roasted in anticipation of a family visit. There are members of my own family who don't drink anything other than decaf and one tries to be accommodating . . . . .

Anyway, I'm hoping that this is my one and only starring role in a youtube video.

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Postby another_jim on Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:48 am

Ken Fox wrote:One thing that Jim didn't really comment upon was the fact that there were essentially no sink shots made during his visit here, something I attribute to using ~14g doses as opposed to the larger doses I used to use. Since he is doing more or less the same thing chez lui, he probably considers this normal.


Lots of sink-lookers a chez moi; only 15% or so are sink-tasters
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Postby Fullsack on Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:49 pm

Jim,
Don't know where in Idaho Ken is, but if you didn't get a chance to drop by Diedrich, you really missed something. I just finished day 1 of their roasting class, given by Steve Diedrich, and I'm duly impressed.

Thanks Ken, for providing the link.

http://www.diedrichroasters.com/homeroast.html
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Postby Ken Fox on Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:12 pm

Fullsack wrote:Jim,
Don't know where in Idaho Ken is, but if you didn't get a chance to drop by Diedrich, you really missed something. I just finished day 1 of their roasting class, given by Steve Diedrich, and I'm duly impressed.

Thanks Ken, for providing the link.

http://www.diedrichroasters.com/homeroast.html


I'm in south central Idaho; you could drive to the Diedrich plant in a lot less time from Seattle Washington than from my house.

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Postby HB on Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:59 pm

Thanks for the video gentlemen, I enjoyed a good laugh. :lol:

another_jim wrote:Lots of sink-lookers a chez moi; only 15% or so are sink-tasters

Now I know what the next homepage poll will be...
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Postby cafeIKE on Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:42 pm

HB wrote:Now I know what the next homepage poll will be...


Do you set your timer to count up or down :?:
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Postby RegulatorJohnson on Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:57 pm

HB wrote:Now I know what the next homepage poll will be...


why do you use a naked portafilter? :?: :?:
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