Roast and Learn Together - January 2016 - Page 4

Discuss roast levels and profiles for espresso, equipment for roasting coffee.
Chargerswin
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#31: Post by Chargerswin »

Danm wrote:Interested in trying to nail down a profile for Ethiopian Natural here as well so 5lbs of Guji on the way. l Got the last 5lbs from GCBC but Bodhi does have it. Looks like it's 2 or 3 dollars less for 5lbs including shipping (to my location). The Coffee Project has some as well, but it's Gr4. GCBC and Bodhi are Gr2.

I wouldn't worry about the grading as much on a dry processed Ethiopian. It is the same coffee at GCBC as Bodhi Leaf but if the gr. 4 is cheaper I would probably grab that as well. We don't distribute as much Bodhi leaf coffee because they have pretty good deals to home roasters already and even with our bag discount their sales and various coupon codes undercut even what we have to charge with Paypal fees, shipping, and such. I happen to get free Shipping because I am in San Diego, so it's a bit closer on larger amounts 10-15lbs it usually works out a little cheaper to get their offerings through GCBC. We have a similar problem with Cafe Imports offerings.

The one benefit I would consider is that you have someone else cupping the coffee, whether it is at the co-op, GCBC, what have you. We avoided a highly rated 94 coffee that had some issues but was being promoted by Bodhi. I have been in a cupping session with Steve and the gang at Bodhi as one of my good friends works there. So I know they know how to cup and such, not sure why that slipped through the cracks. On the whole I think they have some really good offerings as well.
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#32: Post by dcoplan »

Hey gang - I'm new to this forum and just noticed this thread - what a great idea! I'm in. Just to clarify, everybody is getting this one from Bodhi?...

http://www.bodhileafcoffee.com/products ... ella-green

I have a Hottop which I've always used in auto mode but am starting to explore manual mode (have always produced great roasts in auto but my first few manual attempts were disappointing) and recently picked up a Sonofresco 1kg.

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#33: Post by bvalente »

Joe has a bunch of coffees at GCBC now, maybe there's one queued up and ready to go in reasonable quantities. they all seem reasonably priced, i haven't yet had the opportunity to participate in a GCBC buy yet, but Joe can probably make some suggestions here.

Cheers

Brian
Cheers

Brian

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TomC (original poster)
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#34: Post by TomC (original poster) replying to bvalente »


Actually, members should carry out those discussions here, not vendors/sellers. Our guidelines for this site are rather clear, if you stand to profit from a sale, you're not allowed to participate in a discussion other than to correct factual errors stated by others. This is to prevent soft selling.

Folks are free to source greens from whomever they choose. I just want to see folks exposed to more than what we've done in the past.
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dcoplan
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#35: Post by dcoplan »

Tom - apologies if I glossed over this in previous comments but how does this work exactly? We all get the same coffee (in this case the Ethiopia Sun Dried Guji Hambela, right?) and then just roast, cup, and start commenting? Different coffee every month?

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#36: Post by Danm »

Chargerswin wrote:I wouldn't worry about the grading as much on a dry processed Ethiopian. It is the same coffee at GCBC as Bodhi Leaf but if the gr. 4 is cheaper I would probably grab that as well.
Thanks much for the explanation. I'll be the first to admit that I don't understand the crazy Ethiopian coffee grading system. My only thought was that since this is a Roast & Learn, that it might be helpful if everyone was roasting and comparing apples to apples. Thanks again. :)

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#37: Post by TomC (original poster) »

dcoplan wrote:Tom - apologies if I glossed over this in previous comments but how does this work exactly? We all get the same coffee (in this case the Ethiopia Sun Dried Guji Hambela, right?) and then just roast, cup, and start commenting? Different coffee every month?

Folks can decide in a democratic way. If you find or hear of something you're interested, mention it here. They can then go with whatever garners the most interest.
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#38: Post by Boldjava »

Danm wrote:Thanks much for the explanation. I'll be the first to admit that I don't understand the crazy Ethiopian coffee grading system. ...
Don't waste energy on present system (http://www.greenbonde.com/grading.htm). Defects/shape/color/odor plus cupping score. It is changing. Ethiopia grades on raw product and cup evaluation and assigns 10 grades.

All that will change during the next harvest schedule. 10 grades are being consolidated into 6.

"There are currently 10 grades within each Export grade coffee contract traded at ECX. A technical committee composed of government and industry coffee experts conducted an extensive study to assess the current coffee contracts' alignment with current export standards and international best practices. The study also looked at the consistency and efficiency of the overall grading process and protocols.

This effort resulted in the consolidation of the current coffee grades from 10 to 6 thereby..."

http://allafrica.com/stories/201510091014.html

My assumption is that exempted coffees (co-ops and large growers) will follow suit. Time will tell.
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Chargerswin
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#39: Post by Chargerswin »

bvalente wrote:Joe has a bunch of coffees at GCBC now, maybe there's one queued up and ready to go in reasonable quantities. they all seem reasonably priced, i haven't yet had the opportunity to participate in a GCBC buy yet, but Joe can probably make some suggestions here.

Cheers

Brian
Actually I am all out my friend. GCBC distributors have tons of coffee up for grabs but not I at the moment.

I think the Bodhi Leaf discount is worth it to all be getting the same coffee. I am Highly recommending grabbing some of this if you can from Bodhi Leaf.

I was actually trying to promote getting different grades of Ethiopian coffee's. I have had a gr.4 Ethiopian Mokamba that has become one of my favorite coffee's of all time and it was CHEAP. It's all gone now but I am hoping it comes back soon. So what I was saying is that of there is a Gr.4 version of this available somewhere and it's discounted because of the lower grade....grab it ;D

Like TomC said all conversations regarding decisions of coffees etc should be here for sure. I was shocked and Honored that Tom even considered us. Thanks Tom!
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#40: Post by 9Sbeans »

TomC wrote:Actually, members should carry out those discussions here, not vendors/sellers. Our guidelines for this site are rather clear, if you stand to profit from a sale, you're not allowed to participate in a discussion other than to correct factual errors stated by others. This is to prevent soft selling.

Folks are free to source greens from whomever they choose. I just want to see folks exposed to more than what we've done in the past.
5# Guji ordered from Bodhi Leaf yesterday. I haven't had the opportunity to participate in the GCBC green bean buying yet.

Just curious about the vendors/sellers rules in HB. In the above case, Bodhi Leaf is obviously the source (vendor) of the Guji, and therefore they should not participate in the discussion of the cupping notes/flavors of this coffee.
How about Joe's role? He sourced the bean (from Bodhi Leaf), provided second opinion, and split the bag. Getting the bean from Joe will involve money transfer, hence Joe is (was) a seller. However, it doesn't necessarily mean Joe can profit from this sale. In addition, Joe's bag of bean is out. If Joe won't carry out this crop of Guji again, he will not get any profit. Would the forum rules still restrict Joe from involving in any type of discussion regarding the roasting profiles/cupping notes/brewing methods of this Guji?