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Postby JohnB. on Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:07 pm

rama wrote:I'm happy if I maintain about a 5F/min rate-of-rise post first crack, which depending on your sample size, easily fluctuates between "stall" and "gentle climb".


On one roast last week I managed to stretch a 10*F bt total rise after 1C over 3 minutes but the average is closer to 15*F bt over 3 for brew roasts. Keeping the heat up around P5-P6 & playing with the fan seems to work best for me. Once you get down to P3 or P4 it takes too long for the element to recover. I normally roast in 227g (brew) or 150g (espresso) batches.


For me, this later bit of advice trumps the former (when its necessary due to equipment/skills like mine). I've roasted too fast post first crack for probably my whole first year of roasting for fear of stalls. Needlessly.


Same here.
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Postby Dieter01 on Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:30 pm

I understand that for a light roast (cupping roast to perhaps city +) you need to allow a bit more time for the whole bean to develop. When I go too fast there are distinct grassy flavours. On the other hand I had a few espresso batches that I roasted to City+ or FC (but definitely no 2C). They came out baked - a boring cup with little to no acidity despite a low final BT. My conclusion was that (even though the roast never stalled) there was a need for a certain minimum RoR to avoid baking.

After those batches I increased my RoR and all was good. I also changed other parameters though (like drop in temp and time spent in drying phase). Perhaps I made the wrong conclusion thinking that the RoR was to blame?

Do you increase RoR once 1C is finished?
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Postby rama on Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:07 am

That's not very descriptive, but IMO yes, you came to the wrong conclusion. I doubt holding a certain temperature for 2-3 minutes (as opposed to a steady climb) would result in baked flavors by itself.
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