iginfect wrote:Ken, did you try another gas supplier? I can't imagine Idaho being more restrictive than NY. I live rural and have no access to natural gas, and my home indoors gas range runs on bottled propane outside, like every rural resident in the area,installed by the gas supplier. 20# tanks are available at Loewe's, Home Depot etc and I have a gas grill that is moved from the back deck to the front entranceway, open entirely in the front only, the back is the house, the left the entrance, the right the garage and overhead is the attic, the space is recessed. This enables me to avoid some of the wind and shoveling snow. A wood smoker does come out about once a month from the garage in the winter but is in the driveway when used. The gas grill is visible from the road, unsecured, and I've never had a legal problem.

Marvin

I was imprecise in what I said. The law where I live is that if propane is to be used inside a building, that it must come from one of those large, permanently installed tanks (not the ones used for barbecues). The distribution system from that tank must be of the permanent sort, e.g. not a rubber hose that is not fixed. Doing that sort of installation, in an area that DOES have natural gas, would make little or no sense.

My point in that post was not the specific issues that were raised in the use or installation of my roaster in a home setting, rather that an individual in a home setting is likely to encounter issues, however those issues are unlikely to be related to the risks of using a commercial roaster in the home, per se, rather would be related to local codes effecting appliances and fuel usage. We don't tend to focus on that sort of thing as home roasters, but, these are the sort of things that local contractors and local officials will concentrate on.

ken

I am thinking calling a commercial roaster a "home roaster" is incorrect terminology, it might be more appropriate to just call it a commercial roaster used in the home. I see Diedrich is calling the IR-1 a Lab Roaster and it is just under the HR-1's old web page. I know if I bought a roaster larger then a 1kg model I was going to run into issues with setup with the township local codes as well as home owners issuance, kind of hard to justify a 3kg+ roaster for personal use.

Any tool is dangerous in the wrong hands even with the proper respect and knowledge. There is an old saying among carpenters which says "if you have all your fingers you are not a carpenter and if you have no fingers you are not a carpenter". Not sure if that fits for roasting machines but to me a modified or home built machine has the potential to be as disastrous as an improper setup and/or poor maintenance and/or improper use of a commercial roaster. IMO a commercial piece of equipment, when properly used, is less dangerous then using home owner grade equipment and pushing it to do what commercial equipment is designed to do all day long.

Where can you get a hold of a roaster like the 800N? The only website I found was http://www.bellataiwan.com but I don't speak mandarin...

So far I found these roasters for the serious home roaster. Which of these are available in Europe, and where?

Diedrich IR-1: http://www.diedrichroasters.com/IRallTEXT.cfm?ID=IR-01
Feima 800N http://www.feima.com.tw/e_windos_02/w-03-07-800N-0706.htm
Feima 801N http://www.feima.com.tw/e_windos_02/w-03-08-801N-0706.htm
Solar 2kg http://www.coffee-tech.com/products/shop-coffee-roaster-automatic-Solar
Toper Cafemino http://www.cafemino.com/cafemino.php?sayfa_id=350&kategori_id=350&id=3&lng=1
USRC sample roaster http://www.revelationroaster.com/samplevideo.htm