Iseethestars wrote:Hi Stephen,
well, I am going to order HG One soon, and I have no plans on motorizing it, since it does not add any benefit for me I do not mind hand griding (Selling Vario now, grinding everything on Lido2 for the moment).
But that is us, the people that o not mind spending a lot of money and effort to in the pursuit of perfect coffee .) What I had in mind is more, mainstream? I would say kind of grinder, that would not need a skilled user ....

A Ceado E37s.

Well, not exactly like that;))

Thanks for the comments gents. It is indeed a hobby project at this point, it started off with an intention to release it, but having thought about this hard I think I will stick to my day job and not take the risks involved with releasing a product to the market (with no previous experience).

Anyone who wants to go down this route should prep their wallet and make sure you have loads of time to faff around with parts, or get the design to the point of perfection before ordering any parts to be cut (which of course is damn hard as some ideas look good on paper). I'm lucky enough to have a friendly machinist who has very reasonable hourly rates and is also focused on delivering the highest quality parts (within his reach of course), so it all seems to be working pretty well.

Think of this whole thread as a building diary, there will be more photos to follow for sure, maybe even a video showing it in action assuming I get to a stage when I don't want to touch it anymore and consider it as done:)

Rgds,
T.

Hi Tom, Count me as interested in seeing your design and work so far as well. What I eventually decided with my project was to release video and pictures of it before it was done. It doesn't need to be a professional video or photography just to get across the idea of your work. Maybe someone else will pick up the torch where you left off and get to market. Or maybe you could find a buyer for your full design. Having a jump-start for R&D must be attractive to someone.

I'm sure a motorized grinder that delivers on everything a home barista could ever want would sell well, as long as it could fall near or ideally under the $2k mark.

Here's hoping we get some photo & video action soon!

I ask this, not to be a put down, but because i think it is a legitimate point. Then Pharos grinder has never been perfect. Would the home-barista community have been better waiting until it was? Would Doug and barb be more respected for waiting? If they had waited, would everyone have even agreed it was perfect? Can you name anything that has gone to production or been revealed that was not subsequently modified, tweaked, or enhanced?

I think the answers should reveal my opinion and hopefully inspire you to feel the same:)

Just discovered this thread as I was looking to buy my first electric grinder. Well, it looks like I came across some kind of holy-grail; one, it seems, shrouded in mystery! Besides detail shots, are there any photos of the infamous ZR-71? Thanks.

Short answer, no.

day wrote:I ask this, not to be a put down, but because i think it is a legitimate point. Then Pharos grinder has never been perfect. Would the home-barista community have been better waiting until it was? Would Doug and barb be more respected for waiting? If they had waited, would everyone have even agreed it was perfect? Can you name anything that has gone to production or been revealed that was not subsequently modified, tweaked, or enhanced?

I think the answers should reveal my opinion and hopefully inspire you to feel the same:)

Hard to compare the two scenarios without experiencing both, considering the success of the 'basic' Pharos, imagine what it could've been if it was better. My own OCD is driving this project in a specific direction and I'm not after respect in any way.

Regards,
T.

The respect component was intended to be the least significant aspect and was really just mentioned to point out that a perfect product may not always be the most important aspect of having a great product and making a great contribution.

History-not to mention logic- seems to clearly demonstrate that production itself and mass application leads to more refined design and makes the process economically feasible.

Hi Tom,
just wanted to mention that I absolutely understand ))
Keep it up, its really amazing project. Inspirational one.

Pavel