I figure if it's more than I can take I can re-list it at cost, so it's worth the attempt. Sounds like the consensus is split, its either a great find or a money pit. Also, Im not familiar with a three phase grinder, what is the difference between it and other grinders?

The consensus isn't really split here. If you want to use it, you will either need to completely replace the motor (and probably wiring) or buy a transformer and phase converter to supply 380V 3PH. You'll also need to buy new burrs, new burr carrier springs, and a new collar for the grind adjuster. Whether this makes it a great find is up to you. It probably won't have much resale value in North America.

benhogan wrote:ok, let's be nice. It's a bit of a mess but cant say I haven't gotten in too deep myself on purchases. What's done is done.

Dude! I did add a winky... --->

I basically just added a parable to the epic. I think a vast majority would have recommended not buying it if you would have asked. The parts to get it working, if found new, would probably cost more than a proper home Mazzer would have used.

maybe find a 120v. version that is also a basket case with the required parts cheap...?

pacificmanitou wrote:Also, Im not familiar with a three phase grinder, what is the difference between it and other grinders?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase_electric_power

The motor design is inherently incompatible with 120/240v 1/2 phase power. The AC waveforms of the phases is offset by 120 degrees which is integral to the motor design.

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Mazzer coffee grinder mestre crazy parts for the engine works perfectly with 380 volt ref 05092012

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When he says that the motor is working, for you it means that it is not working. To explain the 3 phase motor to you in a caveman electricity language, you have 3 motors inside that motor, and each one is rotated 1/3 of a twist away from each other. Looking at a watch, one is pointing to 12, the second to 4, and the third to 8. That's like the industrial power lines. You COULD have your local power company to come and route a 3 phase 380v to your house and an electrician to pull a line and a socket into your kitchen wall. Will cost you a few hundreds.

I can't see many random buyers here in the US buying a tiny 3 phase motor though. You might need to list it for many months until some hobbyist or a technician will look for one.

I'd say you basically have a shell of a SJ and might need to buy most/all the inners to make it a working SJ - all of that when you can buy a used SJ for 300-400 dollars.

i doubt that this is a 380v/ 3phase. i'd say it's 220v/ 2phase which is common on the continent. what i can see from the ebay pictures, the (frayed) power cord and plug looks like that.
3 phase is used for machinery, welders, etc. the only sub-industrial 3-phase grinder i can think of is the mahlkonig vta.
all the same, i doubt the mazzer is worth the shipping, not vintage enough.

There is a 50 Hz three-phase version of the Super Jolly listed in the Mazzer parts manual. It has separate parts, including the burr set, electric cable, switch/timer, and motor stator. I assume the eBay seller got the voltage off the information plate, which is too blurry to make out in the photos.

cafebmw wrote:i doubt that this is a 380v/ 3phase. i'd say it's 220v/ 2phase which is common on the continent. what i can see from the ebay pictures, the (frayed) power cord and plug looks like that.
3 phase is used for machinery, welders, etc. the only sub-industrial 3-phase grinder i can think of is the mahlkonig vta.
all the same, i doubt the mazzer is worth the shipping, not vintage enough.

A lot of large commercial espresso machines are 380v to cope with the power draw of a 15L+ steam boiler. For cafe owners, having a grinder you can plug on the same socket can be nice. That's why three phase coffee grinders exist. Also, I'm not sure but I wouldn't be surprised if 380v equipment is cheaper to run tax wise in certain countries.

If it turns out to be a 380V 3 phase motor, I would think that it is a bust in terms of using it but depending on shipping cost there is certainly more than $75 worth of spare parts to be used on a mangled SJ that will certainly show up sooner or later.
I bet that there will be collectors to buy just the Mazzer name plate which is very different and the doser if in good shape will also find a taker for sure.
Not a complete loss!
Good luck.

http://www.factorymation.com/Products/F ... 1P5-C.html

I read in another thread about a similar case involving a mazzer major, Mazzer Major help with power conversion , that a VFD could solve the problem. Would this, in conjunction with a transformer, make it a functional grinder?