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Vario Burrs Smooth ?

Postby MUTTS on Fri May 13, 2011 11:49 pm

Little worried on this one. My espresso's started running really fast the past two days - wasn't too concerned at first - I was experimenting with a Yemen roasted almost 2 weeks ago so I knew I would have to grind finer. Well, I progressively increased the micro adjustment for the past 4 shots or so but still fast shots. I've only been using the grinder for a little over a month, but figured I would try to clean the burrs either way. The burrs look fine - no obvious signs of damage - but they are smooth to the touch when I run my finger around the edges. I never inspected the burrs when new so I have nothing to compare to, except that when I ordered new burrs for my Rocky they were pretty sharp. Are these burrs worn and if so how could they have become so worn in one month ? :?
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Postby five and dime on Sat May 14, 2011 12:59 am

I found that the ceramic burr is built pretty different from steel burs design-wise....I wouldn't call mine sharp per se, but they are definitely pointy and built to grind something. It could be that your grind adjustment screw needs some attention. (the grind slips coarser sometimes- find your zero point and adjust from there)
Hope that fixes your problem!
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Postby MUTTS on Sat May 14, 2011 2:31 am

Thanks for the info. I did indeed reassemble and the grind adjustment screw had perhaps slipped a little - perhaps 2 or 3 notches (judging by where the motor starts to labor), but the burr status seems ominous. I can run my finger around the surface of both burrs and feel little resistance - it would be impossible to even nick my finger. I just can't fathom how the burrs would have become so worn. I would estimate that I have ground no more than 50 shots since the unit was new and I've not noticed any alarming sounds that would suggest something was amiss :?:
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Postby dialydose on Sat May 14, 2011 10:26 am

I am going to guess that the burrs are fine, but perhaps need a little calibration. I have put over 100 pounds through mine and haven't noticed any "wear" related issues.
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Postby MUTTS on Sat May 14, 2011 1:18 pm

Good to hear - are you saying then that your burrs feel relatively smooth as well ?
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Postby cafeIKE on Sat May 14, 2011 2:23 pm

MUTTS wrote:Little worried on this one. My espresso's started running really fast the past two days -

A - you're going in the wrong direction for older coffee
B - you have no reference as you did not examine the new ceramic burrs
C - Rocky burrs are not fine examples of industrial process. They have [relatively] very jagged, unfinished edges compared to others more finely finished.
D - ceramic and steel are as different as chalk and cheese
E - don't know about ceramic, but 50 shots is about 25% of break-in for steel
F - post rating :P
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Postby MUTTS on Sat May 14, 2011 2:59 pm

Okay, I appreciate your help - and I guess the scolding is justified (I knew it was coming if the simple answer is that the Vario burrs are just different this way). :oops:
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Postby HB on Sat May 14, 2011 4:18 pm

Some owners have reported the initial grind setting being too coarse; you may want to try the recalibration instructions copied below from Getting started with the Baratza Vario:

Baratza wrote:Calibrating the Vario with the new calibration screw.

Baratza's first shipment of Vario's (March 2009, serial # 001 to 270) were calibrated at the factory to grind too fine. We then changed the factory setting for the Vario so it could be adjusted fine enough for espresso and coarse enough for Press Pot. Since we made this adjustment at the factory we have had much fewer calibration issues. Beginning with serial #271, Baratza added a secondary calibration screw (2mm Allen head set screw) in a round hole between the discharge chute and the calibration grommet. This calibration screw allows the user to easily adjust the calibration in the finer direction with the grinder running. To make the adjustment, empty all beans from the grinder, lower the Macro and Micro levers all the way to the bottom and run it briefly to expel any partially ground coffee. Press the Manual button and then the Start button. While the grinder is running, raise the Macro arm all the way to the top (Espresso). You should not hear any change in motor speed. Now raise the Micro arm up the midpoint. You should begin to hear the motor slow (or labor a little). If not, use a 2mm Allen wrench to slowly turn the 2mm set screw clockwise (when looking up at the screw) until you begin to hear the motor slow or labor. You are done!
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Postby MUTTS on Sat May 14, 2011 4:54 pm

Thanks again. Re-calibrated after cleaning and good to go. I guess I had thought that I had done something wrong with this procedure at initial setup - I just wasn't expecting burrs without sharp, juxtaposing cutting edges.
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Postby dustin360 on Sat May 14, 2011 5:16 pm

I haven't used your exact grinder, but ive used ceramic burrs and metal ones before. The metal ones definitely feel like they have more of an edge than ceramic. Hope that helps some.
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