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Used Cimbali Cadet hard to adjust

Postby randytsuch on Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:52 am

Hi
I picked up a used Cimbali on Friday. It is marked Alinox on the bottom, but is the flat burr/direct drive version, so I think it is really a Cadet.

I have taken it apart, and cleaned it up, and ordered new burrs which should arrive today.

But, after cleaning, I put in the upper burr carrier, which is threaded to adjust the grind, and it is hard to move, after it is in a few turns. It was also hard to take out, but at the time I didn't realize I would have to move it to adjust the grind. I also noticed it was kind of hard to adjust the grind when I picked it up, but I thought it was just dirty, and after cleaning, I expected it to get easier.

Is this normal? Is there anything I can do to make it easier? I was thinking about lubing the threads with vegetable oil when I put it back together with new burrs.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Postby sweaner on Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:27 pm

I suggest lubing the threads. I am not sure that vegetable oil would be good. I have heard of olive oil being used. Once I used a small bit of silicone spray. This worked, but I doubt it would be considered food safe.

Now I use Dow 111. The tube linked below will last forever, as only tiny amounts are needed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0343663907
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Postby randytsuch on Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:59 pm

Thanks for the tip

I checked the stuff out on ebay, and then remembered I probably already have it.

For swimming pools, they sell silicone lubricant for greasing o-rings. I am pretty sure it is food grade.
I bought a tube from Leslie's pool supply a while ago. I will check tonight, and make sure that it is really food grade, and hope that it solves my problem

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Postby cafeIKE on Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:50 am

randytsuch wrote:... it is hard to move, after it is in a few turns. It was also hard to take out...

My Cimbali Max Hybrid exhibited the same. It also had an easy and a hard section each revolution that got harder as the burrs got closer to zero. Lubrifilm didn't help very much.

Much more difficult than any Macap or Mazzer I've taken apart.
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Postby randytsuch on Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:24 am

Hi Ian
Hey, we're neighbors, kind of. I live in Brentwood.

Nice to know that someone else with a Cimbali has the same issue.

I put some of my pool lub on last night, and it did make it somewhat easier (I think), but it still seemed hard. I have my new burrs, hopefully I will have time tonight to put it together.

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Postby cannonfodder on Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:50 pm

The threads are very fine, even a little coffee in the threads will bind them up. When I take my grinder burrs out I will brush the threads clean with an old toothbrush to get any residual coffee powder/grinds out. They are also easy to cross thread. Hopefully the previous owner or you did not do that.
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Postby cafeIKE on Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:34 am

Knowing that coffee in the threads could cause an issue, I scrupulously cleaned them. No change.

Coffee in the threads would probably not manifest itself an oscillation in the difficulty, but as an ever increasing stiffness.
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Postby randytsuch on Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:33 pm

Put the new burrs in last night, and put it together enough to try adjusting it, but it is NOT working, the threads are too tight, and I can't adjust the grinder right now.

I was pretty dissappointed/upset about it last night, but todays another day.

Did some research, and found out they make something called a thread file

They hav some here
http://www.victornet.com/subdepartments/Other-Thread-Repair/1420.html

Going to order one for the internal (nut) and one for the external (bolt) threads, and see if I can fix this guy.

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Postby cafeIKE on Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:40 pm

Not sure that is a good idea. Espresso adjustments are in the 2/10,000th of an inch range. Any work with a file is likely to severely compromise that accuracy.
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